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Old 08-01-2013, 07:30 PM   #31
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The 30-30 will kill almost anything that walks the earth. The problem with the 30-30 is it has about the same range as a shotgun slug. I can tell you this much, I have killed a deer with a 30-06 that two men started shooting at with a 30-30 before I even picked up my gun. The 30-30 rounds were hitting the ground before they got to the deer. I drilled the deer the first shot with a 30-06. I will admit I had the benefit of a little long distance training from uncle sam and I had experience shooting targets with the 30-06 at long range. I don't even know how far the targets or the deer were from me. I do know a truck was required to fetch the targets and the deer. I would say the deer was under 400 yards. I don't think one can tell if it's a buck or a doe with their naked eye over 400 yards.
If any of you use a 30-30 and have not tried the new Flex-Tip bullets from Hornady I strongly suggest you try them. You will be pleasantly surprised at how well they perform!!! They shoot A LOT flatter and hit A LOT harder than any of the RN ammo I have used.
I still would not recommend the 30-30, even with the new bullets, for elk unless this is the only gun I had access to!
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:38 PM   #32
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If you can get a 30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag I'd do it if you expect to see shots over 150 or so. It would suck to have an Elk at 300 yds and a 30/30 is on your hands

Brush? Different story, spot on firearm I'd say, thinking about getting one

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.30-06 or 7MM Rem mag...... I shoot an 8x57 and a 7mmRM. Neither is the hammer of Thor. I can tell you the 1 and only Elk I have ever harvested was a big bull in Colorado using a 12ga bolt gun. 30..35 yards. That is hunting. He was following cows and never knew I was there walking up the opposing slope. If I had a 91/30 w/ a bayonet, I could have saved a bullet. The 160gr Hornady offering should give you an easy 150 yard shot. As far as 8x57, I would pass on the Prvi ammo and go strait to S&B 196gr. The prvi I have shot, it seemed no better then U.S. made from a load point. Very weak. Now if your rifle shoots 8" high, it may work just fine as it shoots low.

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Old 08-02-2013, 12:13 AM   #34
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Adequate depends completely on who is shooting it, I don't consider the 30 carbine a deer hunting cartridge but I know an old man who has killed dozens of deer with one, he only shoots them in the neck with it but has never lost one. I don't consider the 223 a deer cartridge either but I know a guy who has taken 15 straight deer with one and recovered all of them (also a neck shooter). If a 30 carbine or 223 can do it a 30-30 is more then enough but I'll stick with my 6.5x55.

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94 Winchester trapper, 170 Winchester ammo, 80 yards, 60 inch Yukon bull moose, one shot , bang thud! definitely changed my thinking on the 30-30.

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I knew an old guy in Idaho who killed dozens and dozens of elk w/ an old Savage M99 in .250 Savage w/ factory loads who rarely needed a second shot. If he were alive today I'm sure he would have liked today's improved bullets and factory ammo, though I'm sure he would have been just as happy with his old stuff.
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Just my .02 . I have been reading up on this cartridge and recently read a scope on a .30 WCF should be zeroed at 200 yrds and should be capable of delivering clean one shot kill shots on anything the continental US has to offer @ 200 and under .

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.30-06 or 7MM Rem mag...... I shoot an 8x57 and a 7mmRM. Neither is the hammer of Thor. I can tell you the 1 and only Elk I have ever harvested was a big bull in Colorado using a 12ga bolt gun. 30..35 yards. That is hunting. He was following cows and never knew I was there walking up the opposing slope. If I had a 91/30 w/ a bayonet, I could have saved a bullet. The 160gr Hornady offering should give you an easy 150 yard shot. As far as 8x57, I would pass on the Prvi ammo and go strait to S&B 196gr. The prvi I have shot, it seemed no better then U.S. made from a load point. Very weak. Now if your rifle shoots 8" high, it may work just fine as it shoots low.
That's the way to get em, before they get any adrenaline in their blood.I hunt deer at 25-40 yards and I have a habit of not staring directly at the animal if it's just walking, because I feel like it projects your presence a little bit to them.
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I knew an old guy in Idaho who killed dozens and dozens of elk w/ an old Savage M99 in .250 Savage w/ factory loads who rarely needed a second shot. If he were alive today I'm sure he would have liked today's improved bullets and factory ammo, though I'm sure he would have been just as happy with his old stuff.
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My ex father in law was like this.He hunted whitetails for many years with a .22-250 and never failed to drop a deer with just one shot, he was good, just clip the spine on the neck and that was it.He grew up in a different time probably like the guy you knew, and if they messed around they didn't eat so it served them well to be good at what they did.
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I've never hunted for elk, but my. 30-30 has never had trouble downing Whitetails.

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