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Old 07-31-2013, 03:40 AM   #21
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I'd much rather have a 30-06 for elk. Good excuse for ya to get one.

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I personally believe that the .30-30 is marginal for even deer, not to mention elk. But that is me and I'm sure I will get a lot of flack on that. In that class of cartridge, the .35 Remington is much more adequate for deer and elk. To answer your question, I think you would be better off w/ the 30-06 or .308, however, your 8mm Mauser would be more than adequate though you would be handicapped with only iron sights. If the 30-30 is all you have and you can limit your shots to under 100 yards, then use it.
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Here we go again Ct! With the new ammo (flex tip) the 30-30 will actually perform as good if not better than your beloved 243 on deer, and the 30-30 is 'marginal' but the 243 is not?????. I know because I have 'cleanly' killed deer at over 300 yds with my 336 30-30 using the new ammo. I have owned several 243's and killed deer and antelope with them and this would have been the limit for the 243 also! Not to mention the 30-30 has probably put more deer in the pot than any other caliber used by the american hunter.
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Here we go again Ct! With the new ammo (flex tip) the 30-30 will actually perform as good if not better than your beloved 243 on deer, and the 30-30 is 'marginal' but the 243 is not?????. I know because I have 'cleanly' killed deer at over 300 yds with my 336 30-30 using the new ammo. I have owned several 243's and killed deer and antelope with them and this would have been the limit for the 243 also! Not to mention the 30-30 has probably put more deer in the pot than any other caliber used by the american hunter.

AND, the 30-30 has probably wounded more deer than any other caliber used by the American hunter.
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AND, the 30-30 has probably wounded more deer than any other caliber used by the American hunter.
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That is just a numbers thing. If more are shot at by a certain caliber there will be more kills and wounded deer. All I know is that ANY DEER hit in the chest with a 30-30 will die within seconds.
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That is just a numbers thing. If more are shot at by a certain caliber there will be more kills and wounded deer. All I know is that ANY DEER hit in the chest with a 30-30 will die within seconds.

You are correct. As any deer hit in the chest with any cartridge from 6mm on up will die, if not in seconds, then minutes.
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If you have questions about the 30-30, then use your 8mm Mauser.
With Privi Partizan or SB ammo, the 8mm is everything a 3006 is in the power department. American manufacturers under load the round. You can get a scout scope mount that mounts where the rear sight is if you want to scope it without altering the rifle.

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AND, the 30-30 has probably wounded more deer than any other caliber used by the American hunter.
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Not where I hunt. I have seen more wounded elk, deer, hogs, and antelope shot with the 243 than any other caliber, the little bullets lack the momentum the bigger bullets have. That CT, is why I consider the 243 'marginal' for BIG GAME in general. But that has nothing to do with this thread so it is a moot point here right?

Actually more deer have probably been wounded and lost from buckshot than any rifle!
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Not where I hunt. I have seen more wounded elk, deer, hogs, and antelope shot with the 243 than any other caliber, the little bullets lack the momentum the bigger bullets have. That CT, is why I consider the 243 'marginal' for BIG GAME in general. But that has nothing to do with this thread so it is a moot point here right?

Actually more deer have probably been wounded and lost from buckshot than any rifle!

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I have an activist personality so I can't resist trolls like you, my bad!!!
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The 30-30 will kill almost anything that walks the earth. The problem with the 30-30 is it has about the same range as a shotgun slug. I can tell you this much, I have killed a deer with a 30-06 that two men started shooting at with a 30-30 before I even picked up my gun. The 30-30 rounds were hitting the ground before they got to the deer. I drilled the deer the first shot with a 30-06. I will admit I had the benefit of a little long distance training from uncle sam and I had experience shooting targets with the 30-06 at long range. I don't even know how far the targets or the deer were from me. I do know a truck was required to fetch the targets and the deer. I would say the deer was under 400 yards. I don't think one can tell if it's a buck or a doe with their naked eye over 400 yards.

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