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Old 07-30-2013, 09:37 PM   #11
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Do a quick search for Hornady LeverEvolution, it's supposed to be good stuff.
Underwood is rated at the same ballistics and uses the same bullet as Hornady . But from my experience underwood are very conservative in their stated ballistics and even your average is going to be higher than stated ballistics.

http://www.underwoodammo.com/30-30winchester160grainflextipexpandingboxof20.aspx

And underwood *IS* the good stuff.
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Old 07-30-2013, 09:40 PM   #12
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One of my brothers has shot one or two elk with a 30-30 and with a couple of different muzzle loaders and one with a bow. The key is to limit your shots. Broad side shots at fairly close range(100 yards or less). It is really more about accurately hitting the correct spot(elk do not have bulls-eyes marked on them).

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I personally believe that the .30-30 is marginal for even deer, not to mention elk. But that is me and I'm sure I will get a lot of flack on that. In that class of cartridge, the .35 Remington is much more adequate for deer and elk. To answer your question, I think you would be better off w/ the 30-06 or .308, however, your 8mm Mauser would be more than adequate though you would be handicapped with only iron sights. If the 30-30 is all you have and you can limit your shots to under 100 yards, then use it.
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Lever ammo and limit your shots to 200 yds. or less on broadside shots it will work as good as a cannon. The problem what if you see that big bull at 300 yards and need to angle the bullet in. Not a good choice. And yes cottontop you will catch some flack. I used to guide for elk, bear and other critters in Montana. The best elk gun inside 350 yards was a .270 with someone behind the gun who could shoot. 30-30 marginal for deer is absurd. My favorite deer gun is the .220 swift with broadside shots inside 300 yards. Have killed 20+ deer with it and only one took a step. The problem is broadside. Sometimes you need to angle the shot. Getting sidetracked here. Sorry. Buy a .270, .280 remington, .308, 30-06 for your hunt. Just don't buy some big magnum as it is not needed for anything in North America but big bears. ANY GUN GOOD SHOOT THEM GOOD. Period.

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Inside 150-200 yds a 30 30 will do what it's done more than any other two calibers over the last 100+ years. And that's drop game.

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Lever ammo and limit your shots to 200 yds. or less on broadside shots it will work as good as a cannon. The problem what if you see that big bull at 300 yards and need to angle the bullet in. Not a good choice. And yes cottontop you will catch some flack. I used to guide for elk, bear and other critters in Montana. The best elk gun inside 350 yards was a .270 with someone behind the gun who could shoot. 30-30 marginal for deer is absurd. My favorite deer gun is the .220 swift with broadside shots inside 300 yards. Have killed 20+ deer with it and only one took a step. The problem is broadside. Sometimes you need to angle the shot. Getting sidetracked here. Sorry. Buy a .270, .280 remington, .308, 30-06 for your hunt. Just don't buy some big magnum as it is not needed for anything in North America but big bears. ANY GUN GOOD SHOOT THEM GOOD. Period.

In all actuality, the .30-30 is not marginal for deer (maybe elk, but not deer). But, there are some on this forum who believe that the .243 is marginal for deer. The 30-30 AND the .243 are both adequate for deer, just marginal for elk. The OP should use the 30-30 for elk if that is what he has and limit his shots to 100 yards give or take. With it's rainbow trajectory I think that 200 yards is pushing it, but should be ok if properly sighted in. The 30-30 has been known to be a leg breaker when pushed to distances beyond it's limit.
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A 150 grain 30-30 and a 150 grain 30-06 are almost identical bullets.The difference is that the 30-06 has as much energy at 250 yards as a 30-30 has at 25 yards, lots of people shoot animals at 250 yards with a 30-06, so if you shoot an animal at 25 yards with a 30-30, there is no difference at all between the two rounds.Like everyone says, a 30-30 is good but limit your distance.

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.416 Ruger Alaskan, at a minimum for Elk........

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So I may have the option of going on a big game hunt with my new in-laws in the future out in Colorado. They hunt elk for the most part along with deer. I have a old Marlin 30-30 lever action with a 3x9 scope on it, do you think it is adequate enough for elk or should I go and get a 30-06 or 308 bolt action?

I do not really have much experience with rifle hunting since I live in Ohio, we use shotgun
Not really! Even with the best ammo out there if you get the 'BIG TROPHY' bull even at under a 100 yards it would be iffy! I have seen a few elk killed with a 30-30, but most of them were cows or young bulls at a range of less than 100 yards, and I have had to track MANY ELK that were wounded with many more powerful rounds. If you limit your shots to 100 or less yards, perfect presentation, perfect shot placement, and small animals the answer is yes. I don't think you want to buy an out of state license for $500+ and use a 30-30, just my advice. I lived in CO for 50 years and hunted elk most of the time.
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Ok you guys gave a ton of good advise. I will think about my options. I do not have a problem with iron sights, so my 8mm my be the ticket. Or if I am in the brush seems like 30-30 is ok. Then again it is nice having an excuse to purchase a new rifle and I have been wanting a 30-06 for a few years! Come to think of it, I do have a garand... . Just playing.

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