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Old 09-10-2013, 07:00 PM   #41
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There have been too many cops shot dead down here in Florida in the last 20 years.
I've been to so many police funerals I now hate the sound of bagpipes. Amazing Grace makes me cringe and wonder who's next. Too many. Way too many.
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Combat training may help you assess the situation a little bit better so you don't walk up and get shot.
I would assume that police are trained on how to approach a car as safely as possible. I don't see how combat training would help. To me combat training is what it says training for combat in a war situation, its not that bad in America is it. ? PS I too have seen too many police funerals but what the police were up against here American police are unlikely to see.
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I would assume that police are trained on how to approach a car as safely as possible. I don't see how combat training would help. To me combat training is what it says training for combat in a war situation, its not that bad in America is it. ? PS I too have seen too many police funerals but what the police were up against here American police are unlikely to see.
I admit it's been a long time ago, but when I went through the academy nothing was taught about cover and concealment, and these were both things that were taught in the Army. Multiple discipline training can't help but improve their chance of recognizing a threat and knowing what to do about it.

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but what the police were up against here American police are unlikely to see.
Tell me that again when you have a couple airliners take out some skyscrapers.
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Tell me that again when you have a couple airliners take out some skyscrapers.
That wasn't directed at the police. I am talking about people trying to kill police what weapons they face and the tactics used to defend themselves in their everyday policing.

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That wasn't directed at the police. I am talking about people trying to kill police what weapons they face and the tactics used to defend themselves.
My apologies. I didn't understand what you were getting at.
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No problem maybe I wasn't clear that I meant people deliberately targeting police.
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If you walk up to a car and someone shoots you combat training isn't going to help you.
Part of "combat training" is not giving up even if you are gut shot. Yes, We train to FIGHT. Just because I am shot does not mean I am dead (or even combat ineffective), it just means I am shot.
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I would assume that police are trained on how to approach a car as safely as possible. I don't see how combat training would help. To me combat training is what it says training for combat in a war situation, its not that bad in America is it. ? PS I too have seen too many police funerals but what the police were up against here American police are unlikely to see.
"Combat training" is a multi-faceted idea. We want officers to have the right mind set to survive and WIN an armed encounter. This training also helps prevent the need for "combat". Many BG's can smell the training and chose NOT to fight.
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I admit it's been a long time ago, but when I went through the academy nothing was taught about cover and concealment, and these were both things that were taught in the Army. Multiple discipline training can't help but improve their chance of recognizing a threat and knowing what to do about it.



Tell me that again when you have a couple airliners take out some skyscrapers.
Cover and concealment ARE taught both in the basic academy and in in-service training. This year we are doing some pretty high speed force on force training with simunitions. I got gut shot a couple of times, but guarantee I gave better than I got. We train WITH OUT body armor to instill the mind set of "continue the fight". Sims hurt. You shoot me, I WILL shoot you back, a lot!
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More LEOs were victims of motor vehicle accidents and heart attacks than gun shot wounds in 2012. Then factor in officers killed with their own weapons? Maybe other types of training and disciplines would help reduce the police mortality rates.
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