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sniper762 04-27-2013 05:21 PM

Competitive shooting doesn't have to be expensive
 
A few years ago, while in the army, i was issued an m24 sws (sniper weapon system) to compete in the national sniper competitions.

i woud shoot local f-class competitions with it for practice. i scored on average 186 out of a possible 200 at 1000 yds and 194 out of a possible 200 at 600 yards. ( not too shabby but still not in the top 10)

the weapon ( an acurized remington 700 topped with a 10x leupold m3a scope) costs app. $6k. most of my fellow f-class competitors shot custom built rifles ( avg. costing $5k). so i built my own (with my limited budget).

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/sniper762/GUNS/MAUSER.jpg

Mauser .308 caliber bolt action rifle. I built this gun for long range shooting. I bought a unused Argentina 1935 action and fitted it with a Parker Hale 26 inch .308 bull barrel. It was pillar bedded and barrel free floated into a Bell and Carson composite stock. It has a Timney match trigger and is topped with a BSA mil-dot illuminated reticule 6-24 x 50mm scope. I used it to drop groundhogs at 500 yards and competed with it in several F-Class long range matches. It has zeroes for 100-1000 yards and is quite accurate. I have shot a 196 out of a possible 200 at 600 yards and a 184 out of 200 at 1000 using M852 Military Match ammo (total cost was app. $600 including the $100 scope)

i shot basically similar scores with my $600 rifle as i did with the $6,000 rifle in the f-class matches.

btw, my sniper team placed 9th place in 1997 and 6th in 2000 out of 37 teams at the national sniper competitions.

Axxe55 04-27-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sniper762 (Post 1229018)
A few years ago, while in the army, i was issued an m24 sws (sniper weapon system) to compete in the national sniper competitions.

i woud shoot local f-class competitions with it for practice. i scored on average 186 out of a possible 200 at 1000 yds and 194 out of a possible 200 at 600 yards. ( not too shabby but still not in the top 10)

the weapon ( an acurized remington 700 topped with a 10x leupold m3a scope) costs app. $6k. most of my fellow f-class competitors shot custom built rifles ( avg. costing $5k). so i built my own (with my limited budget).

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/sniper762/GUNS/MAUSER.jpg

Mauser .308 caliber bolt action rifle. I built this gun for long range shooting. I bought a unused Argentina 1935 action and fitted it with a Parker Hale 26 inch .308 bull barrel. It was pillar bedded and barrel free floated into a Bell and Carson composite stock. It has a Timney match trigger and is topped with a BSA mil-dot illuminated reticule 6-24 x 50mm scope. I used it to drop groundhogs at 500 yards and competed with it in several F-Class long range matches. It has zeroes for 100-1000 yards and is quite accurate. I have shot a 196 out of a possible 200 at 600 yards and a 184 out of 200 at 1000 using M852 Military Match ammo (total cost was app. $600 including the $100 scope)

i shot basically similar scores with my $600 rifle as i did with the $6,000 rifle in the f-class matches.

btw, my sniper team placed 9th place in 1997 and 6th in 2000 out of 37 teams at the national sniper competitions.

just proves a point i have made many times over the years. many times it's not just the rifle, but the person behind the trigger.

very impressive Sniper. good looking rig too. :D

karateguy28 04-27-2013 06:20 PM

very nice looking rig! well done! thanks for your service!

Chainfire 04-27-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sniper762 (Post 1229018)
A few years ago, while in the army, i was issued an m24 sws (sniper weapon system) to compete in the national sniper competitions.

i woud shoot local f-class competitions with it for practice. i scored on average 186 out of a possible 200 at 1000 yds and 194 out of a possible 200 at 600 yards. ( not too shabby but still not in the top 10)

the weapon ( an acurized remington 700 topped with a 10x leupold m3a scope) costs app. $6k. most of my fellow f-class competitors shot custom built rifles ( avg. costing $5k). so i built my own (with my limited budget).

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll63/sniper762/GUNS/MAUSER.jpg

Mauser .308 caliber bolt action rifle. I built this gun for long range shooting. I bought a unused Argentina 1935 action and fitted it with a Parker Hale 26 inch .308 bull barrel. It was pillar bedded and barrel free floated into a Bell and Carson composite stock. It has a Timney match trigger and is topped with a BSA mil-dot illuminated reticule 6-24 x 50mm scope. I used it to drop groundhogs at 500 yards and competed with it in several F-Class long range matches. It has zeroes for 100-1000 yards and is quite accurate. I have shot a 196 out of a possible 200 at 600 yards and a 184 out of 200 at 1000 using M852 Military Match ammo (total cost was app. $600 including the $100 scope)

i shot basically similar scores with my $600 rifle as i did with the $6,000 rifle in the f-class matches.

btw, my sniper team placed 9th place in 1997 and 6th in 2000 out of 37 teams at the national sniper competitions.


Chuck Yeager, a true American heroes was known to say, "it is the man, not the machine." I think this may be a good example.

I bet you gall some folks using a complete system that cost less then 1/4 of what their scopes cost.

Garadex 05-12-2013 08:07 AM

I bet that made some competitors mad.

Garadex 05-12-2013 08:08 AM

Oops double post.

bigjim 05-15-2013 02:33 PM

Very nice build, good job.

Jim

Rick1967 05-15-2013 02:42 PM

I have always believed that most guns are far more acurate then the people shooting them.

Gonzilla 05-15-2013 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick1967 (Post 1247540)
I have always believed that most guns are far more acurate then the people shooting them.

You are 110% RIGHT but if you have the skill base or just pure talent, its a damn shame to be equipment limited. A great shooter can even compensate for bad equipment at modest ranges.

Example: I used to do some short order cooking in my younger days. Quality equipment makes producing excellent results a lot easier.

When I miss, I want to make damn sure its me and not the equipment.

PS: On occasion, sometimes even a low cost rifle leaves the manufacturers floor perfect.

Trez 05-16-2013 03:23 PM

I want to start shooting in competitions with my bone stock M1903..... I figure people 100 years ago could shoot 800-1000 yards with open sights, why cant I??? :)


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