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Old 02-14-2012, 03:52 PM   #21
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Just curious Durango, did you go w 5.5" bull barrel or 7" model 41 ? I have both 5.5 and 6.88 in Ruger and I love the balance and recoil control of the 5.5" but I have a scope on my 6.88 and will remove for a more accurate test.

Quick note: the old fashioned, cross haired scope on my Ruger 6.88 is 1.5X and if properly rested, it will put all 9 rds in one big hole. The HS Victor will outshoot anything under $1K.

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Old 02-14-2012, 10:16 PM   #22
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I see a few of you guys mentioning the Ruger Mach 2&3. I was curious why the mark 1 is not considered. Thanks

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Default A bit of history

In 1949 William B. Ruger started his company with his partner Alexander McCormick Sturm, and the gun they designed was the .22 cal target pistol due to the fact that they wanted to produce a gun for recreational purposes.

They produced that pistol and refined it's design with approximately 30 production modifications. When they introduced the Target Model, they named it MK I and the original pistol remained as the Standard .22 Pistol to differentiate it from the Target Model, these pistols were produced until 1981 when 32 yrs of production had improvements in design and production techniques that yielded the MK II.

The MK II had a few improvements that included:
1) Increased Mag capacity from 9 to 10 rnds
2) Automatic bolt stop when the last rnd was fired
3) Flats Milled into the rear of the receiver to make the bolt easier to grab.
4) Enhanced bolt grab tabs
5) Improved trigger design
6) New safety mechanism
7) A slide release
8) Available in Stainless Steel

When the MK II came into production, all previous versions (Standard and Target Models) became officially the MK I

Along with the MK II came for a brief time in 1992-1993, the .22/45 that sported a 1911 government model grip and mag release design.

In 2005, MK III was introduced, some changes included:
1) Frame mounted mag release (adopted from the .22/45)
2) Loaded chamber indicator
3) New safety design
4) Re-contoured ejection port
5) New bbls designs (fluted, slab sided, ect.)

The MK III represents 62 yrs of true and tested performance of a gun that has changed little from it's original design.

Fun Facts:
1) The .22 cal Pistol was purposely made with a resemblance with the German Luger
2) The fundamental inspiration for the MK I was the Colt's Woodsman and the Hi Standard .22
3) The first advertising was made in 1949 in the august issue of American Rifleman

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Combat Handguns March 2012 issue

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Mandy: very good sir, I always respect a good history lesson that doesn't start & end with the word Google attached to it.

I have a 1&2 I really never liked the safety features on the 2 & didn't really care about the extra round & I never had the accuracy on the 1.

I kind have been avoiding the 3 but if I could get close to the same results as my 1 & not have to screw with those $h^++y European mag release than I would be happy.

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Mandy. Great info. Thanks for sharing.

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Gonsilli, I shoot the Mdl. 41 5.5" HB. I started with this Mdl. around 1965 as I recall. I strayed for a few years shooting other fine target Mdls. A friend of mine USAF Capt. USAF Shooting Team at Hill Field AF Base Ogden, Utah offered me one of his pistols for sale. I have been shooting this will tuned pistol for some time. A friend has a 7.5" with the extendable front sight. This is a fine pistol also. I never use scopes so I can not talk on that subject. I am looking at changing the grips on the Mdl. 41. I am having a problem with the Smith stocks for some reason.
Bill Ruger used the Jap Papa Nambu pistol for the orginal design of the first Ruger .22 Auto Pistol. This pistol was not expensive to produce. They came on the market in the 1950s for around $25 bucks. This was half the cost of a Colt. Bill allowed a lot of guys a chance to shoot .22 pistols. Ruger to this day allows many shooters a fine entry level firearm.

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1001 thanks, I was wondering if anyone was going to give the Nambu it's credit because Bill Ruger certainly did. G&A did a test a WWII battle pistols and the Nambu won the accuracy test. The round tube of the Nambu is still clearly evident in the Ruger design.

I don't know why I put a scope on my MK I ? Probably just because I could as I have several 22s. I had a theory that children or beginners would be able to,shoot it better because you simply center the crosshairs and pull the trigger vs the three-part sight alignment with front sight clear, Tgt & rear fuzzy...

What I did learn ? How much a pistol moves w/o a rest and how accurate a stock Ruger can be from a sandbag rest.

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I have a nice "Papa" Nambu but I never shoot it. The Nambu was the Japan version of the wonderful Swedish Lahati Pistol. Have you looked at this firearm? I was interested in your mention of the Nambu test I have not heard about that. I may have to shoot this old gun. Thx

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Personally, I wouldn't have put money on it myself simply because the competition was so stiff. Our 1911 was more reliable and certainly more powerful than the competition. I might have bet on the Lugar for accuracy as the early models were very tight and they created special holsters to keep them clean.

Always fun to be able to shoot a piece of history.

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The Nambu fires a Ctg. that is a .380 Light. The 9MM Luger and the .30 Luger can be very accurate. The Luger can be a pain about feeding.

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