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 01-19-2010, 01:44 AM | #11 | Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Elk Grove Village, IL Posts: 48 |
Actually it doesn't, the Glock when you chamber a round, decocks it's self and fires only Double Action (DAO), the XD's do not decock themselves and remain cocked and locked and are SA, but do have two safeties one pistol grip and one trigger. So Glocks should be used SSP only and XDs ESP only. Pistols with a hammer and manual safety can be used DA or SA and can be used in both SSP or ESP.
Jim
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| 01-19-2010, 02:13 AM | #12 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 469 |
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Originally Posted by bigjim
Actually it doesn't, the Glock when you chamber a round, decocks it's self and fires only Double Action (DAO), the XD's do not decock themselves and remain cocked and locked and are SA, but do have two safeties one pistol grip and one trigger. So Glocks should be used SSP only and XDs ESP only. Pistols with a hammer and manual safety can be used DA or SA and can be used in both SSP or ESP.
Jim
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Not quite.
1. Decocked
2. Pistol is charged. Round is chambered, and striker set at half-cock
3. Trigger pulled. Striker is fully cocked, then released
4. Recoil charges the pistol again, chambering a new round and setting the striker back at half-cock.
This is how striker-fired pistols work, be they Glock or XD. The Glock adds a trigger safety, which must be depressed before the trigger can be pulled, and the XD further adds the grip safety, which must be depressed in order for the slide to move, but the trigger action is the same. __________________
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| 01-19-2010, 02:28 AM | #13 | Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Elk Grove Village, IL Posts: 48 |
You are almost right, but that little stainless pin that sticks out from the back of the XD means you are fully cocked and ready to fire (not decocked). Don't take my word for it check with the manufacturer or look at your XD. It is the same for my Taurus PT140, once the round is chambered the pistol is ready for SA fire, even though it has no hammer.
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| 01-19-2010, 02:30 AM | #14 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 469 |
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Originally Posted by bigjim
You are almost right, but that little stainless pin that sticks out from the back of the XD means you are fully cocked and ready to fire (not decocked). Don't take my word for it check with the manufacturer or look at your XD. It is the same for my Taurus PT140, once the round is chambered the pistol is ready for SA fire, even though it has no hammer.
Jim
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Ready to fire in the sense that pulling the trigger will fire, yes. ONLY releasing the striker at that point, though, will not generate enough energy to fire. This is true of both the Glock and the XD, because the cocking cycle completes only when the trigger is pulled. I guess this was enough for IDPA to classify striker-fired pistols as double action. __________________
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Originally Posted by canebrake
"If innocent life doesn't immediately depend on it, don't shoot. And if it does, don't miss!"
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| 01-19-2010, 02:55 AM | #15 | Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Elk Grove Village, IL Posts: 48 |
Check with the manufacturer. | |
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| 01-21-2010, 06:07 AM | #16 | Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 47 |
Yeah with in the next few weeks I'm going to get an xdm. Ill regret it if I dont __________________
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| 01-25-2010, 12:31 AM | #17 | Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 419 |
Per IDPA HQ, the XD can not be used in SSP. You can down load to eight rounds in the magazine and shoot a 45 ACP XD in the CDP division or you can load it to ten rounds and shoot any caliber in ESP. Like I said though, SSP is not an option for an XD. The Glock and M&P can go SSP, ESP, or CDP depending on caliber. You can contact IDPA HQ for their "reasoning", but that's their answer. __________________
"Don Corleone: I'm a superstitious man, and if some unlucky accident should befall Michael-if he is to be shot in the head by a police officer, or be found hung dead in a jail cell... or if he should be struck by a bolt of lightning - then I'm going to blame some of the people in this room; and then I do not forgive. But that said, I pledge - on the souls of my grandchildren-that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made today." | |
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| 10-25-2010, 05:34 PM | #18 | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 9 |  .22 Cal Competition Pistol
IMHO there is only one the S&W Model 41. You can get it with a 7" or 5.5" barrel, there is also a 7" barrel with integral compensator. They are super accurate. You can put 1911 grips on them, a magwell, just about any optic, they can really be customized including removing the slide tang or changing to a Bully Custom Barrel (used by top shooters in .22 cal steel plate competition).
They are pricey but you will never regret it. I have one and in 12,000+ rounds only had five FTEs' and that was in 35 - 38 degree temperatures. The coating on the rounds got sticky.
All .22 cal pistols are ammo sensitive and you will need to find what works best in you particular pistol.
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| 11-13-2010, 10:34 PM | #19 | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western burbs of Chgo, Illinois Posts: 26 |
As stated, it depends on the competition. I shot many years in bullseye with a bull bbl ruger MKII and changed out the trigger and sear. It will keep up with any S&W 41 out there (had a 41 and sold it when I got the ruger because of the price difference).
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| 11-18-2010, 02:17 AM | #20 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Greenbrier, Arkansas Posts: 6 |
i would prefer the Beretta 92F. it is reliable and is accurate. | |
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