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Old 04-05-2011, 01:09 AM   #1
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To all firearms forum members, FFL's and gun owners and law abiding citizens.

I have been an FFL for several years. I have used Authorize.net as a merchant services gateway (credit card approvals) for the past two years.

Today they sent me a notice that they were canceling my account. Frankly, I don't care. There are other merchant service gateways who DO want my business.

If you are an FFL, thinking about starting a firearms business or any other business that uses Authorize.net Please think again.

Attached is my response (sent to abuse@authorize.net) to their Very Impersonal Email notice followed by the notice they sent to me. I have changed salutations to my Username on this forum. Authorize.net did not have the courtesy to sign their cancellation notice to me.

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Dear Authorize.net,

Today I received by EMAIL a notice that you are terminating my account Due to: Service Agreement (the "Agreement") (http://www.authorize.net/files/Authorize.Net_Service_Agreement.pdf). These sections include, but are not limited to, the sale of firearms or any similar product.

I have had this account for two years And you have taken my money for every transaction. My account with you was arranged by Power Pay, 888-888-4009, My bank Processor.

I have informed Power Pay of your anti American Gun policy and your infringement on the Constitutional Second Amendment rights of all Law abiding U.S. Citizens.

Please be aware that the Federal Trade Commission will be informed of you actions to harm my business. The FTC does investigate cases such as this where a paid service provider suddenly changes policy or in your case, got around to reviewing my account after approving it two years ago.

Rest assured that I will be doing my best to inform all 300,000 + Federally licensed gun dealers collectors in the U.S. That it is against your policy for them to be doing business with you and that they should terminate their agreement with Authorize.net and find another Merchant Gateway immediately.

As a Courtesy, I will be sending all licensed dealers a list of Gun Friendly Merchant Services Gateways who do not impose unrealistic restrictions on legal U.S. businesses. This includes a mailing to every Sporting Goods retailer who also sells firearms or ammunition.

My Case will also be brought before NRA-ILA. Millions of gun owners will want to be made aware of ANY merchant who does business with a company who engages in anti American policies that infringe on their Constitutional rights. There are over 4,000,000 NRA members and thousands of affiliates who will be informed of your policy.

Happy Trails,

(sigp250)

Midwest Shooting Sports and Supply LLC
Website: Guns Supply - GunsAndSupply.com Home
Email: service@gunsandsupply.com
Tel: 888-745-2080
Fax: 888-745-6635


*** Cancellation Notice***
Your Authorize.Net Merchant ID is: XXXXXX
Dear MIDWEST SHOOTING SPORTS AND SUPPLY, LLC,
Authorize.Net LLC ("Authorize.Net") has determined that the nature of your business constitutes a violation of Section 2.xv of the Authorize.Net Acceptable Use Guidelines (Terms of Use) and Sections 3.4 and 10.3.3 of the Authorize.Net Service Agreement (the "Agreement") (http://www.authorize.net/files/Authorize.Net_Service_Agreement.pdf). These sections include, but are not limited to, the sale of firearms or any similar product.
Accordingly, pursuant to Section 4 of the Acceptable Use Guidelines, your ability to access and use the Authorize.Net Services will be terminated on April 29, 2011.
If you feel you have received this e-mail in error or have any questions about this termination notice, please contact abuse@authorize.net.
Regards,
Authorize.Net Abuse Department
***You have opted to receive Administrative Announcements for your payment gateway account. To unsubscribe, log into the Merchant Interface and click Account from the main toolbar. Then click User Profile from the menu on the left. Select Edit Profile Information and uncheck the e-mail types you do not want to receive. Click Submit to save any changes.

Authorize.Net does not send spam. Ever. For information on Authorize.Net communications and how we handle customer information, please see our Spam Policy and Privacy Policy.

Please do not reply to this e-mail.

Copyright 2011. Authorize.Net, a CyberSource solution. 808 East Utah Valley Drive, American Fork, UT 84003. All other marks are the property of their respective owners. All rights reserved.
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So you're saying that they're engaging in anti-American policies? Because they don't want to do business with you for some reason.....they're unconstitutional and anti-American?

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So you're saying that they're engaging in anti-American policies?
Yes,

I consider any business that does not respect our 2A rights to be anti American. Though it is legal for them NOT to do business with who ever they wish. It is my right to inform users of their policy and, for me, not to do business with them.

This company categorizes their Anti-Gun policy along with Porn, Tobacco and other such businesses that they deem inappropriate.

Since when has hunting become an inappropriate activity?

Ebay, PayPal, Amazon, Bing and Google also have editorial advertisement policies that are Anti-Gun. Google will gladly take your money on a pay pr click basis.

If you yourself are anti-gun or just trolling, move on to another topic.
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If you yourself are anti-gun or just trolling, move on to another topic.
Excuse me?

Your last post before this one was in November, almost five months ago. So I suggest that maybe YOU are the troller, trying to drum up support for your little vendetta. Give me a break.
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Excuse me?
Yes,

If the shoe fits wear it.

Do you have anything else to add?
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Yeah, I'm anti-gun. Boo-frickin-hoo for your little sour grapes issue.

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Yeah, I'm anti-gun. Boo-frickin-hoo for your little sour grapes issue.
Are you so obtuse that you can't understand the meaning of the message?

This is not about my beef with a two bit "middle man" gateway.

The meaning is that this is just one more example of the anti-gun movement that is upon us that infringe upon your Constitutional rights and mine.

You apparently don't have the ability to see this.

Others here will. That is why I said, move on if this topic is not for you.
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You haven't provided enough information. I'm not too obtuse to realize that there might be a whole lot more to this than meets the eye.

But you're right, I'll move on, I'm bored.

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Yes,

If the shoe fits wear it.

Do you have anything else to add?
sigp250 - First and only warning. Lon is a member of this forum in good standing, is a Southern gentlemen and is one hell of a fine 2A advocate.

What he is asking for, is more information to support your cause. Nothing less.

It's a reasonable request.

If you want the ample support of the FTF Community, one that ranks in the top 20 of "firearms websites" in the whole of the internet and ranks 11th in "Firearms and other Weapons" forums, I would tread a little lighter and with a little more respect.

These fine men and women support the 2A, and they are willing to take up pen for any good cause, but insulting one of their own is not a great way to go about embracing them.

Your choice.

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They can choose who to do business with....so noted. Its just another entity gone politically correct. If they want to forego revenue at the expense of priciples big whoop, go somewhere else. Its pretty much a moot point to cry foul on this forum due to their lack of interest in serving our community. Screw'em and don't waste your time...its evident they don't care.

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