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okdonk 03-10-2012 11:53 PM

what's the right thing to do..
 
Ordered a complete lower from ST, which it will be shipped to my LGS. God knows when they will ship it eventhough i already paid for it.
Bought a complete upper SBR and it will arrive next tuesday.

Question:
Can i just keep the SBR upper in a locked unused rifle case in my home. I will not touch it until the paperwork is done (till my lower arrives at my LGS, submit the paperwork with trust $ $200 tax. And another 6-7months waiting for the stamp gets back).
I will not even putting accessories on my upper when its being kept. Seriously will not touch it from now till the whole 6-7months.

Thank you for inputs.. appreciate it. I just want to be a law abiding gun owner ;).

wjnfirearms 03-11-2012 01:06 AM

From what I've been told, you have to have the stamp to take posession of the SBR from the dealer. I haven't dealt with this personally myself, yet, but if I'm mistaken, please someone correct me.

I've been told that posession of an SBR without the stamp is a no-no and a dealer shouldn't turn one over without proof of the existance of the stamp.

okdonk 03-11-2012 01:31 AM

U can buy any upper and get it shipped to you.
Lower is the one need to be shipped to dealer.

dog2000tj 03-11-2012 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okdonk (Post 736247)
U can buy any upper and get it shipped to you.
Lower is the one need to be shipped to dealer.

It is my understanding that any upper with an overall barrel length of less than 16" is considered a short barrel rifle, thus applicable to all NFA rules/regulations.

Soliferrum 03-11-2012 03:21 AM

the way i read it, it also applies to people who put buttstocks on glocks. damn law is ridiculous

okdonk 03-11-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dog2000tj

It is my understanding that any upper with an overall barrel length of less than 16" is considered a short barrel rifle, thus applicable to all NFA rules/regulations.

As i said, when my lower arrives at my LGS, i will register it as SBR lower. And it stays at my LGS till i get my tax stamp.
And i'm aware i'm only allowed to put my 10.5" SBR upper with a registered SBR lower.

dog2000tj 03-11-2012 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okdonk (Post 736314)
As i said, when my lower arrives at my LGS, i will register it as SBR lower. And it stays at my LGS till i get my tax stamp.
And i'm aware i'm only allowed to put my 10.5" SBR upper with a registered SBR lower.

Here you go, read up - http://www.atf.gov/firearms/nfa/. Pay particular close attention to the section that applies to short barreled rifles ;)


and just in case you still don't understand, in a cliff notes version - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

JonM 03-11-2012 04:12 AM

if you have a rifle type lower receiver in semi-auto format and no pistol lower or registered M16 do not buy the shortbarrel ahead of time. even if you cover it in cement bury 3000miles in the ground the atf considers it intent to construct a unregistered nfa item if you possess a semi auto rifle lower but no pistol or m16.

it doesnt matter to them if you store the short barrel in the andromeda galaxy or not.

if you do not possess a rifle lower and there isnt one someone else owns in your home your riding a grey line.

best to just wait on getting the short barrel until you have your sbr stamp in hand. there is no shortcuts to nfa. you get in trouble once you start short cutting.

okdonk 03-11-2012 04:49 AM

Thx guys. I read in some threads on the net.. some said its best to keep the upper in a trusted friend's home who doesn't own an AR related rifles. Also i called my LGS which my 2 suppressors being kept there, he suggested me to buy a temporary pistol lower, something like that.

I will look and open up for any solutions.
Thank you ;)

JonM 03-11-2012 05:08 AM

Storing it at a friends house is still constructive intent. Here is what happens doing that. Your bestest buddy known him since kimdergarten gets caught harvesting his 20000 acre pot farm no one knew about. To get a lesser sentence he tells the feds about all the shaky things people he knows are doing.

Guess who shows up at your door with an arrest warrant for nfa violation...

Buy a pistol lower or dont buy the barrel. It doesnt matter where you store it


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