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Old 07-07-2012, 11:07 PM   #11
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I just read this on another forum I am on and don't believe it to be true. Can anybody give me an instance in which it happens?
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Actually, it's not just border states if they are handguns:

ATF form 3310.4


"This form is to be used by licensees to report all transactions in which an unlicensed person acquired two or more pistols or revolvers or any combination of pistols or revolvers totaling two or more at one time or during five consecutive business days. This form is not required when the pistols or revolvers are returned to the same person from whom they are received."


http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-3310-4.pdf

Look down the form a ways---there is reference to sending a copy to local law.

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Old 07-07-2012, 11:14 PM   #13
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Actually, it's not just border states if they are handguns:

ATF form 3310.4


"This form is to be used by licensees to report all transactions in which an unlicensed person acquired two or more pistols or revolvers or any combination of pistols or revolvers totaling two or more at one time or during five consecutive business days. This form is not required when the pistols or revolvers are returned to the same person from whom they are received."


http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-3310-4.pdf
Exactly! The term five consecutive business days is tricky too, cause if you buy on one Monday and then come back and buy another handgun on Friday it falls within the window and must be reported. That's applies across the board no matter what state you are in.
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Thank you for your reasonable responses. I appreciate it a lot.
Maybe it's because of the heat but it seems manners are not what they once were around here.
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Please don't let the responses from two smart mouths discourage you. The rest of us didn't appreciate their bad manners either. Hope you'll continue to reply in the forums.
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As long as they are legit.. nothing to worry about.
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To reiterate, yes. Handguns bought in more that two of a total purchased quantity within a five day window of consecutive days has to be reported to ATF. They provide FFLs with a form to do this and mandate that the form must be faxed or mailed pretty much immediately. Unless any given state has a similar reporting requirement, there is nothing on any other level that requires this reporting.

Now, the loophole to this is that is someone local to me buys a gun from, say, Bud's Gun Shop online and has it sent to someone else local for processing and two days later buys a gun from me, unless the buyer tells me about the first purchase, I'd have no way of knowing about the one he bought from Bud's, so I wouldn't be sending in the reporting form. There's no way for us to know about previous purchases from other dealers unless the buyer freely admits to the purchase. We are not required to ask if anyone has bought guns days previously and I don't see why anyone would. I don't like to have to send these forms in and doubtful does anyone else does either, but it shouldn't stop you from making multiple purchases if that's what you have occasion to do.
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Also kinda along those lines, kinda. When I moved to this house about 15 years ago. I surrendered my ffl, as it was easier than dealing with all the paper work and I wasn't making any money with it anyway. I had to box up all my forms and paperwork and send it in. What I don't know is exactly what they do with it. Do they enter it in their system or just place the box in a dusty warehouse somewhere!
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Dusty warehouse. They are unable to find their own NFA paperwork for registered full autos, much less an out-of-business dealer's 4473s.
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Dusty warehouse. They are unable to find their own NFA paperwork for registered full autos, much less an out-of-business dealer's 4473s.
That's kinda what I thought
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