Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Firearms Forums > NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion > Seen in an anti assault weapons post.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-09-2013, 09:35 PM   #31
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Battle Creek,Mi
Posts: 204
Liked 42 Times on 26 Posts
Likes Given: 105

Default

I miss spoke it's "Sons of Guns" with Red Jacket guns in Barton Rouge, love the show... and their very talented group has all kinds of issues making auto guns work, much less converting them...

__________________
2manyhobbies is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 11:10 PM   #32
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
1911love's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,444
Liked 619 Times on 373 Posts
Likes Given: 12

Default

You won't be watching Sons of Guns anymore, Discovery Networks has cancelled all firearms related programming.

__________________
1911love is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2013, 11:48 PM   #33
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 751
Liked 476 Times on 292 Posts
Likes Given: 228

Default

Years ago in the 70's up to the mid 80's you were able to purchase in publications like the old Shotgun News a few M16 parts and what they called a drop in auto sear. Today auto sears are registered with the ATF. It was simple and very easy to do and required no gunsmithing skills. Basically you replaced the original trigger, bolt and bolt carrier with the M16 types and when the auto sear was dropped in you had only full auto. Removing it returned it to semi.

Back then you could also buy suppressor internals and then purchase the outer tube from someone else. Those were different times.They even sold the M2 select fire trigger assembly for the M1 carbine, which took 15 minutes or less to change. Only a channel had to be notched out of the stock for the selector switch, unless you already had an M2 stock. I wonder why it was more peaceful back then as opposed to nowadays? Maybe our times are influenced too much by the dirt bag politicians.

__________________
gunsmoke11 is offline  
axxe55 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 10:27 AM   #34
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
clr8ter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: South Central NH
Posts: 2,962
Liked 816 Times on 543 Posts
Likes Given: 500

Default

Do you have any personal experience with these parts? (Or ordering them?) This sounds a lot like the "buy a complete WWII jeep disassembled in a box" type of thing to me. JMHO.

__________________
clr8ter is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2013, 09:21 PM   #35
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 751
Liked 476 Times on 292 Posts
Likes Given: 228

Default

I saw someone arrested many years ago for possession of an early CAR15 with all those bells and whistles after accidentally discharging a round into the wall of his apartment. I guess he was playing with it.

Back then I heard of a number of people doing that. but that was looking for big trouble, so I wasn't interested in risk taking. Soldier of Fortune magazine did write a lot about it back then. I even recall seeing in there photos of a 2 piece drop in sear for the AK.

__________________

Last edited by gunsmoke11; 02-10-2013 at 09:29 PM.
gunsmoke11 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2013, 09:14 PM   #36
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Battle Creek,Mi
Posts: 204
Liked 42 Times on 26 Posts
Likes Given: 105

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gunsmoke11 View Post
Years ago in the 70's up to the mid 80's you were able to purchase in publications like the old Shotgun News a few M16 parts and what they called a drop in auto sear. Today auto sears are registered with the ATF. It was simple and very easy to do and required no gunsmithing skills. Basically you replaced the original trigger, bolt and bolt carrier with the M16 types and when the auto sear was dropped in you had only full auto. Removing it returned it to semi.

Back then you could also buy suppressor internals and then purchase the outer tube from someone else. Those were different times.They even sold the M2 select fire trigger assembly for the M1 carbine, which took 15 minutes or less to change. Only a channel had to be notched out of the stock for the selector switch, unless you already had an M2 stock. I wonder why it was more peaceful back then as opposed to nowadays? Maybe our times are influenced too much by the dirt bag politicians.
The caveat to the drop in sear... you had to have a specific AR lower for it to work, that is unless you had access to the prints, a talented machinest, and or someone that knew how to get the timing right.
Discovery only watch them on Netflix, so was it them that caught the heat for some brain wash program called "American Muslim" with most of the advertising canceling, or was that learning channel?
__________________
2manyhobbies is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 12:52 AM   #37
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Brue182's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 179
Liked 20 Times on 13 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by canebrake
And I bet he thinks hotwiring modern cars is as simple as the way Charlie's Angels do it!
You mean you just don't take a flat head screw driver and stick it where the key goes and turn?
__________________
Brue182 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 01:11 AM   #38
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 751
Liked 476 Times on 292 Posts
Likes Given: 228

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2manyhobbies View Post
The caveat to the drop in sear... you had to have a specific AR lower for it to work, that is unless you had access to the prints, a talented machinest, and or someone that knew how to get the timing right.
Discovery only watch them on Netflix, so was it them that caught the heat for some brain wash program called "American Muslim" with most of the advertising canceling, or was that learning channel?
Apparently you weren't around back then and have much to learn, but I can assure you that Colt was the AR15 that was around with perhaps the Costa Mesa AR18, if you're familiar with it. I have no idea where your info comes from, but I suggest you rethink it. When those parts from the M16 were placed into the Colt AR15 the auto sear was just slipped in. No talent of any sort was required, as was proved by the morons caught doing it and there were many.
__________________
gunsmoke11 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 03:15 AM   #39
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Ruger22lr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 434
Liked 79 Times on 59 Posts
Likes Given: 69

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tackleberry1 View Post
I had a drop in Chip McCormic trigger group go auto on me a few years back.

Just plinking away semi auto when on the third trigger pull she went... B, B, Bang!

I found that by firing then just slightly letting off the trigger I could consistalny run 5 to 9 round bursts...

Broke my heart to do it but I took it back to my FFL and had him swap it out for a new one. I've had the replacement CM group for 8 years with no issues so it must have been a faulty run.

Tack
Did you at least have some fun with it before you took it back?
__________________
Ruger22lr is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2013, 03:29 AM   #40
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: The Edge of Darkness
Posts: 6,495
Liked 4787 Times on 2678 Posts
Likes Given: 1736

Default

The SP-1 and SP-II Colt Prebans could be converted if you had the illegal parts. The Post Ban Colts have a moly block which will not allow placing an auto sear and lever in the rifle.

__________________
nitestalker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Why American need to own assault weapons 2manyhobbies Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion 50 01-17-2013 03:46 AM
Assault weapons ban xSTRIKERx Legal and Activism 262 01-14-2013 10:20 AM
calling them assault weapons paintsplat Politics, Religion and Controversy 5 01-02-2013 04:17 PM
Assault weapons ban Zodiac131911 Legal and Activism 28 07-28-2012 09:36 PM
AWB (Assault weapons ban) vs Post ban model??? capnklump AR-15 Discussion 3 10-02-2011 02:58 PM