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Old 10-04-2013, 01:21 AM   #1
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I was browsing the FB trading post page for my town (in Central TX) Someone had posted that they were looking to sell a MAC 10 (semi auto chambered in .22lr) after a little discussion they mentioned it comes with a suppressor when I informed them that I didnt have a Stamp or anything allowing me to have a suppressor they said "It is part of the original manufacture of the gun. You don't have to have an NFA for it." I've never heard of this before (I'm a newby so thats not surprising) I just want to make sure everythings on the up and up before I meet an unknown person to buy a gun off of. Anyone have any input or knowledge that could illuminate my situation.

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Old 10-04-2013, 01:23 AM   #2
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C3 would know. Doesn't sound right to me.
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I was browsing the FB trading post page for my town (in Central TX) Someone had posted that they were looking to sell a MAC 10 (semi auto chambered in .22lr) after a little discussion they mentioned it comes with a suppressor when I informed them that I didnt have a Stamp or anything allowing me to have a suppressor they said "It is part of the original manufacture of the gun. You don't have to have an NFA for it." I've never heard of this before (I'm a newby so thats not surprising) I just want to make sure everythings on the up and up before I meet an unknown person to buy a gun off of. Anyone have any input or knowledge that could illuminate my situation.
some of the older mac10 were like that. they were grandfathered. however that only applies to the original owner at time of private registry. they are no longer grandfathered once they transfer so you would need a stamp for the gun and one for the suppressor buying it today.

best bet is to get the serial number and call up the nfa division and ask to be sure. those guys change their minds and rules faster than a teenage girl at an all boy teeny bop...
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Would he need a stamp for a semi-automatic?
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Would he need a stamp for a semi-automatic?
if it was manufactered as a rifle, it would need one for a SBR to be legal.
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It is either a set-up or is being watched by the BATF. This is a felony waiting to be tried.
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Pretty sure the question is about the suppressor. I'd ask the seller if it a true sound suppressor or just a fake suppressor that us really nothing more than a barrel shroud. I don't think a suppressor for a Mac10 clone in .22 lr would be old enough to be grandfathered in before the NFA of 1934, which was enacted prior to the design of the Mac10 that the .22 is a clone of.

A semi-automatic Mac10 clone itself could be sold as a pistol as long as there is no stock or provision to mount one.

So the seller may not be that educated either.

A properly registered suppressor would have to be transferred through an appropriately listened dealer and the ATF would have to be aware of the transfer, and the new purchaser would have to have the appropriate paperwork and taxes paid to purchase it.

Then I also noticed the OP lists his location as New York, so who knows. It could could be a Bloomberg trap. I'd hate to see a Sub qualed torpedoman get boned in the process of trying to buy a gun.

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I am guessing since it is a 22LR caliber that it may have come with a fake suppressor. Just for MAC10 look since I doubt that this could have been one that was grandfathered in since it is a 22 and not a 10mm like a MAC10 would be.
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Pretty sure the question is about the suppressor. I'd ask the seller if it a true sound suppressor or just a fake suppressor that us really nothing more than a barrel shroud. I don't think a suppressor for a Mac10 clone in .22 lr would be old enough to be grandfathered in before the NFA of 1934, which was enacted prior to the design of the Mac10 that the .22 is a clone of.

A semi-automatic Mac10 clone itself could be sold as a pistol as long as there is no stock or provision to mount one.

So the seller may not be that educated either.

A properly registered suppressor would have to be transferred through an appropriately listened dealer and the ATF would have to be aware of the transfer, and the new purchaser would have to have the appropriate paperwork and taxes paid to purchase it.

Then I also noticed the OP lists his location as New York, so who knows. It could could be a Bloomberg trap. I'd hate to see a Sub qualed torpedoman get boned in the process of trying to buy a gun.
Thanks Doc I asked if it was a faux suppressor according to the seller it isnt, I think I'm gonna steer clear of this sale, it smells fishy. Also I live in TX now I left NY once Cuomo passed the UNSafe Act

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It is either a set-up or is being watched by the BATF. This is a felony waiting to be tried.
Thats my thinking I just told em I couldnt buy it since the suppressor legality was unclear
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