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Old 07-10-2010, 08:30 PM   #1
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Hi all, I have a question. Shooting subsonic ammo out of my .22 rifle is pretty quiet, quiet enough that I can hear without ear protection the "click" of the hammer, etc... I was thinking about this as a project.

Inside the stock the foregrip running down the barrel is completely hollow along with the buttstock, basically the whole plastic stock is hollow. I was thinking about putting some layers of Dynamat (sound deadening material used for cars 40mm thick) along the inside of the stock, and fiberglass filling the buttstock, thinking it is contributing to the sound. You can hear how the hollow stock "echoes" the sound when dry firing. I was also thinking about putting some of this material inside the receiver (There's plenty of room to apply this stuff without touching any of the working parts). I've got the design and plan down, I was just wondering if this could somehow be construed as "silencing" the weapon. I don't want to break any federal laws. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.
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Old 07-10-2010, 08:34 PM   #2
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Edit to add, this IS for perfectly legal reasons. I am allowed to shoot on my property, the neighbors just asked that I don't shoot after 8pm (which is when my no good skunk and raccoon friends come out and destroy my yard. I just want to be a good neighbor since they sleep with their windows open (They're about 500 yards to the left of my house, so don't think I live in the suburbs or anything).
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Why not just ask them if you can shoot after 8pm until you've gotten rid of the pests. Explain to them that it will be 1 shot maybe 2 and that's it. 1-2 .22 shots is different then just hitting the range at 8pm.
Do they really go to bed at 8? Have small children?
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Why not just ask them if you can shoot after 8pm until you've gotten rid of the pests. Explain to them that it will be 1 shot maybe 2 and that's it. 1-2 .22 shots is different then just hitting the range at 8pm.
Do they really go to bed at 8? Have small children?
It's not so much that to be honest, now that I've got the idea I want to test it out and see how much I can squeeze out of this design. If it completely deadens the "click" on a dry fire, I think it would be pretty interesting. I used to work with dynamat while installing home theater systems (this stuff works). I just don't want to unknowingly violate the law. Plus, it would be good to know when I finally do get a suppressor (legally, of course).
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I'm not a lawyer but I don't see how modifying a stock could be viewed as building a silencer of any sort. People modify stocks everyday, all day, to fit their preferences.
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I'm not a lawyer but I don't see how modifying a stock could be viewed as building a silencer of any sort. People modify stocks everyday, all day, to fit their preferences.
That doesn't have me worried, what makes me wonder is the addition of installing it in the receiver.
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Shouldn't be illegal. You're not muffling the "report" of the weapon, so therefore should be fine. SHOULD being the key word.
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Just cough up the cash for the can and the tax stamp and shoot all night!
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You may want to also check out the BATF.gov website.
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Just cough up the cash for the can and the tax stamp and shoot all night!
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I just got my Marlin 60 threaded for my YHM Mite. Can is small enough I can still get the mag tube in and out with the can installed. It sounds like a grasshopper ( Actual quote from the gentleman shooting beside me at the range yesterday) when firing Remington Subsonic, you really only hear the action. I found that the Aguila 60gr subsonic isnt accurate for **** past 25 yards, while the Rem Subsonic maintains a clover-leafed hole at 50yards.


Remind your neighbors that you are allowed to shoot on your property, and you live in the rural for a reason. Id not bow to a picky neighbor. Tell em to move to the city if they dont like the noise.
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