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 10-09-2011, 04:25 PM | #21 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Augustine, Florida Posts: 287 |
what about building a class3 weapon? __________________
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| 10-09-2011, 11:14 PM | #22 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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What about it? Yes, you can build a class III firearm AFTER you do the "Mother may I?" paperwork with the BATFE, pay them their transfer fee, AND have their approval.
Please note that you CANNOT make a full auto- there ARE other class III firearms, y'know. Short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, suppressors, etc. __________________
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| 10-09-2011, 11:20 PM | #23 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Augustine, Florida Posts: 287 |
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Originally Posted by c3shooter
What about it? Yes, you can build a class III firearm AFTER you do the "Mother may I?" paperwork with the BATFE, pay them their transfer fee, AND have their approval.
Please note that you CANNOT make a full auto- there ARE other class III firearms, y'know. Short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, suppressors, etc.
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the ATF really covered all ends huh  __________________
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| 10-10-2011, 02:57 AM | #24 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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Power- you DO realize that the ATF is, first and foremost- TAX COLLECTORS- don't you? __________________
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| 10-10-2011, 09:41 PM | #25 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: St. Augustine, Florida Posts: 287 |
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Power- you DO realize that the ATF is, first and foremost- TAX COLLECTORS- don't you?
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Yeah I understand what they do, I have never described them as tax collectors ha. __________________
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| 10-20-2011, 01:40 PM | #26 | Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 51 |
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Power- you DO realize that the ATF is, first and foremost- TAX COLLECTORS- don't you?
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Isn't that what every function of the federal government really just there to collect taxes? EPA, ATF, IRS (duh!), OSHA, etc. | |
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| 10-20-2011, 02:05 PM | #27 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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Cuda- a quote from Chief Justice John Marshall- and cudos to Daniel Webster-
Chief Justice Marshall said: "That the power of taxing it [the bank] by the States may be exercised so as to destroy it, is too obvious to be denied , and That the power to tax involves the power to destroy [is] not to be denied" . __________________
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| 04-22-2012, 12:34 AM | #28 | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Portsmouth, NH Posts: 1 |  01/07/FFL/SOT/Tax/NFA?????
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So to own a pre 86 full auto you only need to pay 200$ tax and do the paperwork?
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I'm a new member with what may be a dumb question. All these effin rules are so complicated you need a P.h.D. to figure them out. Can the average law abiding citizen own a Safety Harbor KEG12 http://www.safetyharborfirearms.com/products/shotguns/shotguns.html
by simply paying the above mentioned $200 tax?
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| 04-23-2012, 10:26 PM | #29 | Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 45 |
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Yes as long as your state allows clase 3 ownership short barrel shotguns are legal | |
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| 04-23-2012, 11:42 PM | #30 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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Class III firearms include full auto, short barreled rifles, silencers, destructive devices short barreled shotguns, AND a group called AOWs- Any Other Weapons. If you convert a shotgun to a short barrel, it is an SBS. However, make a 12 g pistol from scratch, it is an AOW. That has a one time $5 Federal transfer tax. If laws in your STATE permit, and you can pass a background check to buy an ordinary firearm, you can own one.
Here is an example. These were never shotguns with a shoulder stock, and so are AOWs.
http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php
By the way, THIS is a BRIEF summary of the process of BUYING a Class III firearm.
http://www.serbu.com/dw/nfa.php__________________
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