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10-15-2012, 01:25 AM
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Does it really matter when I have to show him a IL FOID card to buy a gun anyway ? its not like my info is going to be any different than whats on my card wether its filled out there in front of him or on my kitchen counter .
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I'm pretty sure an individual can fill it out prior to showing up as long as its signed in front of the dealer I'll have to look in the regs though.
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10-15-2012, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by silverado113
I'm pretty sure an individual can fill it out prior to showing up as long as its signed in front of the dealer I'll have to look in the regs though.
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I dont ever sign it or date it until I get there anyway because I never know if Im going to make it there that day or the next
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10-15-2012, 01:57 AM
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I know some shops charge more depending on where it comes from i.e. Buds. I charge $15 but most around here are $25. When your friend was a shop owner what year was it? He probably made money on accessories and ammo. It's harder for mom and pop brick and mortars to compete with places like Buds, CTD and these other big internet dealers who a selling guns for cheaper than we (as dealers) can get them wholesale. I know a couple of dealers who have bought from Buds and added a couple bucks to make something because it was cheaper than the wholesaler. On another note gun owners can be some of the cheapest SOBs out there.... 
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Buds has the same overhead as any other shop. In fact, they have more overhead when you consider their showroon, indoor range, inventory, offices, warehouse and staff. Most internet vendors have at least one brick and mortar shop. Cheaper than Dirt started in an old insurance office in the Pleasant Grove area of Dallas. Sportsmans Guide was a mail order company long before anyone was buying sporting goods online.
That line about internet vendors have no overhead just doesn't hold water. Internet vendors saw the potential of the internet and they seized the moment.
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Last edited by Old_Crow; 10-15-2012 at 02:03 AM.
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10-15-2012, 02:01 AM
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The Gunny
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Originally Posted by Old_Crow
Buds has the same overhead as any other shop. In fact, they have more overhead when you consider their showroon, indoor range, inventory, offices, warehouse and staff. Most internet vendors have at least one brick and mortar shop. Cheaper than Dirt started in an old insurance office in the Pleasant Grove area of Dallas. Sportsmans Guide was a mail order company long before anyone was buying sporting goods online.
That line about internet vendors have no overhead just doesn't hold water. Internet vendors saw the potential of the internet and they seized the moment.
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What line? I didn't say anything like that. I never said they didn't have overhead, a question was asked and I answered it based on what other dealers have told me. The biggest problem I think dealers have with Buds is they receive special treatment for some reason. They get guns dropped shipped which is why they can be cheaper on a lot of their guns. I could care less because I can beat most of their prices.
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10-15-2012, 02:28 AM
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What line? I didn't say anything like that. I never said they didn't have overhead, a question was asked and I answered it based on what other dealers have told me. The biggest problem I think dealers have with Buds is they receive special treatment for some reason. They get guns dropped shipped which is why they can be cheaper on a lot of their guns. I could care less because I can beat most of their prices.
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Buds gets special treatment because they sell over 300 guns a day. They get all sorts of VIP treatment.
I was in the construction business for a while. I couldn't compete with larger builders until I figured out their secret. They all had a warehouse on a railroad spur so they could buy material wholesale. Once I figured it out I didn't cry about their business practice. I got a warehouse on a railroad spur. In the end I paid less for my warehouse and I got building material cheaper.
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"I do not aim with my hand; I aim with my eye. He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I do not shoot with my hand; I shoot with my mind. He who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I do not kill with my gun; I kill with my heart. He who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father."
Adopt a pet!! http://www.aspca.org/ Some of the finest pleasure horses come from here: http://www.canterusa.org/
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10-15-2012, 02:32 AM
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Buds gets special treatment because they sell over 300 guns a day. They get all sorts of VIP treatment.
I was in the construction business for a while. I couldn't compete with larger builders until I figured out their secret. They all had a warehouse on a railroad spur so they could buy material wholesale. Once I figured it out I didn't cry about their business practice. I got a warehouse on a railroad spur. In the end I paid less for my warehouse and I got building material cheaper.
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Agreed that's why I sell cheaper than them  I'm just stating the reason other dealers charge that much. Do you work for them? Just wondering cause you know how many guns they sell.
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10-15-2012, 04:22 AM
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Wow you guys are lucky... LGS around my area charges between $65-$85 for transfers on top of DROS which is $25-$35. I live in the L.A. area...
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10-15-2012, 12:02 PM
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Agreed that's why I sell cheaper than them  I'm just stating the reason other dealers charge that much. Do you work for them? Just wondering cause you know how many guns they sell.
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A Buds salesman told me they sell between 300 and 600 guns a day. I believe the salesman. Every Ruger I have bought from Buds was fresh off the assembly line. The test fire casing in the last two Rugers I bought from Buds was dated less than 2 months before I purchased the guns. Both guns were single actions, imagine how fast they are selling the more popular models.
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"I do not aim with my hand; I aim with my eye. He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I do not shoot with my hand; I shoot with my mind. He who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I do not kill with my gun; I kill with my heart. He who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father."
Adopt a pet!! http://www.aspca.org/ Some of the finest pleasure horses come from here: http://www.canterusa.org/
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10-15-2012, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Old_Crow
A Buds salesman told me they sell between 300 and 600 guns a day. I believe the salesman. Every Ruger I have bought from Buds was fresh off the assembly line. The test fire casing in the last two Rugers I bought from Buds was dated less than 2 months before I purchased the guns. Both guns were single actions, imagine how fast they are selling the more popular models.
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Very true , the LC9s are getting hard to get ahold of and the 1911 has a crazy waiting list that I have been on for 7 months .
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10-15-2012, 12:51 PM
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Everything Ruger everywhere is selling like crazy.
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