Does the ATF have records of gun sales? - Page 4
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Firearms Forums > NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion > Does the ATF have records of gun sales?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-14-2012, 05:51 AM   #31
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
johnbrowning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 432
Liked 140 Times on 113 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonM

no and yes sorta. they do not call in the serial number only your name and alias and personal description and social if you wisely listed it. the yes sorta is only in terms of whether its a handgun or long gun or other. giving your social helps speed up the proccess and make holds almost never happen.

my wife has a couple of alias a former married name and since she lists her social after the first time she signed for a gun she speeds right through. the first time she got one and didnt use the social it was like a week to get a procceed since they had to track all her names and she has a fairly common name to boot.
I don't have a common name and I get instantaneous approvals, it's all in a name. By the way the generalissimo in Red Dawn played Superfly.

If I were invading , I would also check magazine subscriptions and first and foremost NRA registrations. And don't forget redneck pick up trucks drivers.
__________________
johnbrowning is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-14-2012, 06:37 PM   #32
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Blkbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 8
Liked 6 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bkt View Post
Which is the reason I do not own a handgun. I'd REALLY like to, but I won't do it with New York's laws.

Why? Were the authorities worried maybe your prints had changed??
Prints do not change per se, but people get cuts, burns, nicks and scaring in skin and on their hands all the time, some of these injuries once they heal, can alter or obliterate the finger/palm print patterns just enough to make a positive ID of that print, almost impossible without other prints from the same person, to make a positive ID.

Example I have on my right index finger a gouge out of the pad of my finger , from throwing oil cans into a dumpster, from when I was 12. The print sorta grew back, but not fully in spots. And that distinct new pattern (so to speak) is still mine, but it has changed enough to have made it different if it were between finger printings five years apart.
__________________
Blkbear is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-15-2012, 03:31 PM   #33
Moderator
FTF_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
 
robocop10mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin,Texas, by God!!
Posts: 10,276
Liked 2952 Times on 1538 Posts
Likes Given: 266

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ellis36 View Post
When I applied for CCL here in Mississippi, they took not only finger prints, but palm prints, full hand prints and four-finger prints. The examiner made the comment " If someone finds your body in a field, we want to be able to identify who you are, no matter how little is left of you."
I said "I really hope that doesn't happen." He said "So do I." Made a chill run through me.
The prints are entered into AFIS to insure they are not found a a crime scene and to keep for future reference.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bkt View Post
Why? Were the authorities worried maybe your prints had changed??
Prints do change, slightly, with time and injury.
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnbrowning View Post
I don't have a common name and I get instantaneous approvals, it's all in a name. By the way the generalissimo in Red Dawn played Superfly.

If I were invading , I would also check magazine subscriptions and first and foremost NRA registrations. And don't forget redneck pick up trucks drivers.
Magazine subscription information is not kept locally. NRA membership is retained within the NRA computers. A localized invasion force, such as in Red Dawn" will also only have access to localized information. The 4473's are one of the only bits of local information available.
__________________

In life, strive to take the high road....It offers a better field of fire.
"Robo is right" Fuzzball

robocop10mm is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2012, 03:22 AM   #34
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: The Edge of Darkness
Posts: 6,495
Liked 4790 Times on 2679 Posts
Likes Given: 1736

Default

Thats OK most gun owners will be among the first strike units to meet any enemy force. Japan decided 70 years ago an attack on the American Homeland would be a big mistake . Japan knew there would be armed citizens behind every tree. The Japs must have read King Georges note book on big screw ups I have made,

__________________
nitestalker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2012, 05:47 PM   #35
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
johnbrowning's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 432
Liked 140 Times on 113 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Woolverines!

__________________
johnbrowning is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2012, 05:48 PM   #36
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: \
Posts: 990
Liked 134 Times on 109 Posts
Likes Given: 43

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by silverado113 View Post
They ask the type I.e. hand gun, long gun, other, but that's it. However, with a CCW most dealers don't have to do a NICS check. Of course if your state has other checks and/or requirements I can't speak on that.
In NC that applies to pistols. If you buy a long gun they run a check. I have seen LGS call the sheriffs dept to see if my CCP was good. I usually just left the gun in that case. I might be a redneck with dirty clothes but I will not be treated like a criminal.
__________________

"I do not aim with my hand; I aim with my eye. He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I do not shoot with my hand; I shoot with my mind. He who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I do not kill with my gun; I kill with my heart. He who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father."

Adopt a pet!! http://www.aspca.org/ Some of the finest pleasure horses come from here: http://www.canterusa.org/

Old_Crow is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2012, 12:04 AM   #37
FTF_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ellis36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Batesville,Mississippi
Posts: 908
Liked 751 Times on 350 Posts
Likes Given: 437

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by robocop10mm View Post
The prints are entered into AFIS to insure they are not found a a crime scene and to keep for future reference.
I guess mine checked out….I received my license last week.
__________________
ellis36 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Firearms Forum Replies Last Post
Brushfire records?!!? colmustard The Club House 4 07-30-2011 07:11 AM
Bound book records 1791 Curio & Relic Discussion 6 08-14-2010 04:34 PM
Records being kept opaww Politics, Religion and Controversy 24 07-16-2009 08:14 AM
Hand Guns of records Weatherby_07 Semi-Auto Handguns 5 09-11-2008 09:53 PM
Government records incorrectly kill off thousands sculker The Club House 4 03-06-2008 11:54 PM