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 03-22-2010, 02:20 PM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4 |  Class 3 tax stamp
My question is do I have to have a FFL to own a fully automatic weapon or do I just have to get a Tax Stamp from NFA? The other question is does anyone have the website or contact number to the NFA? | 
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| 03-22-2010, 02:29 PM | #2 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 816 |
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Originally Posted by gumby
My question is do I have to have a FFL to own a fully automatic weapon or do I just have to get a Tax Stamp from NFA? The other question is does anyone have the website or contact number to the NFA?
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Couple of things:
1, Go to the front and introduce yourself and share some info.
2, You don't mention what state you live in to see if it's even legal in your state to own a fully automatic weapon
To answer your question though.. If your state allows you to own a full auto weapon, you do NOT have to be an FFL to own it. You have to locate a dealer who has a CLASS 3 license to deal in automatic weapons and process the paperwork through them. There will be a fee of, I think it's $200, for the tag and after you wait a bit,weeks I'm told, you'll have your weapon.
Hope that helps ya out and welcome  __________________
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| 03-22-2010, 02:51 PM | #3 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4 |
Sorry that I did not introduce my self. I am new and did not know. I live in Missouri and thank you for the info. | |
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| 03-22-2010, 08:17 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Olathe, JOCO KS Posts: 1,358 |
In MO, you are allowed class 3.
You actualy have to purchase the item before you file for your tax stamp. The serial nu,mber must be included on your paperwork. Then you send your $200, and your forms to the NFA division of the ATF, and WAIT!
Ive heard waits are down to 2.5-3 months. Im at 2 months right now. __________________
I could make a list of a bunch of guns i have, or "have", or wish I had. Why would one feel compelled to provide that infornation freely? Do you feel the need to show off? Is it some immature game of oneupsmanship?
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| 03-22-2010, 08:22 PM | #5 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
Let's not forget that a fully legal, fully automatic weapon is going to run in excess of $6000 for a really old one.
New weapons could cost you $15K-$20K.
Welcome to the very expensive world of Class 3 weapons... LOL
JD
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| 03-23-2010, 12:56 PM | #6 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 816 |
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Originally Posted by Dillinger
Let's not forget that a fully legal, fully automatic weapon is going to run in excess of $6000 for a really old one.
New weapons could cost you $15K-$20K.
Welcome to the very expensive world of Class 3 weapons... LOL
JD
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Although these weapons are on a scale of 1k+ on coolness, I just cannot wrap my head around spending that kinda cash just to go bang really really fast. It's not just the expense of the weapon itself that gets me it's the cost of ammo too.. You can drop a lot of cash in a very very short amount of time.
IMO, if you want a full auto fix, try going to Knob Creek Gun range out in Ky. Twice a year they have their full auto shooting open house.. I hear it's an awesome weekend... They're listed on the internet.. __________________
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| 03-23-2010, 02:38 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Marietta, GA Posts: 125 |
You can get into the game for about $3K, I bought a NIB SWD M11/9 two years ago for $3200.
The semi-annual North Georgia Machine Gun Melee is this Saturday. They'll have two cars & plenty of tannerite. There will be a suppressed only session at Noon, with silencer demos. Nothing quite beats doing a suppressed, full-auto mag dump with subsonic ammo.
Come on out & see what you've been missing and get some trigger time.
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| 03-23-2010, 03:06 PM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas, by God!! Posts: 6,061 |
Remember, there is no such agency as NFA. NFA is the National Firearms Act of 1934. It is the law that set up high (for the day) taxes on Machineguns and other extraordinary firearms. The $200 tax for the transfer was originally the MSRP of a Thompson 1928 model SMG. Today, the sales tax on a good machinegun is is way more than that.
18" bbl 26" overall is the Federal (and Texas) standard for shotguns. Less than that and you are looking at a $200 transfer or 10 years in the Club Fed.
As long as you are not in Michigan, Kali, NY or NJ. you should be fine. Of course any legal advise you get here is worth every penny of what you paid for it. Check your local and State laws to get the real skinny. __________________
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| 03-23-2010, 03:44 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 1,463 |
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| 03-23-2010, 04:06 PM | #10 | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4 |
So would you have a website of where I could find the forms or the information. [I] have looked on the ATF website and cannot find anything about it. | |
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