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Old 08-06-2013, 11:58 AM   #21
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One of the main reasons I have seen for people needing an additonal copy of their C & R license is they signed the original. Don't do that.

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Old 08-06-2013, 12:06 PM   #22
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I signed the original. Will it change my number? And is the one I signed good for anything now?

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I would scan the signed copy, and print copies. Also you can email a scanned FFL (perfectly legal). If anyone insists on the letter of the law, sign it a second time right below your first signature.

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So you should leave the original unsigned forever, make a bunch of copies and hand sign each one? Couldn't you just make 1 copy, sign the original and then make copies off the first copy? I just see the BATFE not liking that we don't sign our original if they come to look.. If they ever do.

And when u guys are out at a shop or gun show u just carry a copy with you? Don't really need the original for anything then lol

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Hock- the process is supposed to be a give someone transferring gun to you a copy, said copy being signed in ink- so that while the document is a copy, the signature is an original on each one. You are NOT supposed to sign the original, and that is not a ding during an inspection. However, now that we are allowed to fax or email outr licenses, the "original signature" requirement is unofficially loosened up a bit.

And yeah, I keep 2 or 3 unsigned copies in my wallet. Targets of opportunity- in another town, drop by a gun shop, find one for my collection, take copy out and sign it right there.

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I leave my original with my bound book in the original envelope it came in so I don't grab it and sign it by mistake. I make a bunch of copies and keep them with envelopes and address labels for sending out. Most to the people I buy from on Gunbroker or other places want payment in the form of postal money orders most of the time so I just grab a copy of my C&R, sign it, put it in an addressed envelope and run by the post office for a stamp and M.O. and done. I also keep copies with me all the time I'm out of town just in case.

P.S. I assume you know you need to keep a bound book.

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I leave my original with my bound book in the original envelope it came in so I don't grab it and sign it by mistake. I make a bunch of copies and keep them with envelopes and address labels for sending out. Most to the people I buy from on Gunbroker or other places want payment in the form of postal money orders most of the time so I just grab a copy of my C&R, sign it, put it in an addressed envelope and run by the post office for a stamp and M.O. and done. I also keep copies with me all the time I'm out of town just in case.

P.S. I assume you know you need to keep a bound book.
Yes I have a bound book. I just thought that you signed the original and made copies of it. I called ATF and talked to them about how to get a "new" one.
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A lot of people do that and its a wonder that I didn't.

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