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Old 01-13-2012, 02:15 AM   #1
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Had a customer walk in today with rifle he just bought at a yard sale, the gentleman who sold it said that it wouldn't work.
Walks it in the door, asks if I'll clean it and inspect it.
I start to dig into it and this is what I find.
10 points to whoever can tell me what this part is and what gun it came out of.
And before someone asks, yes ATF has been called and yes these parts have been destroyed.

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I think a .50 BMG to the grape might challenge that theory... :)
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True, but if you put a .50 BMG to the grape, there's not going to be much to look at in X-rays.
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Those are either fully auto sear or three round burst

I am not trying to start a fight or be a a##hole. This is just a question what gives you the right to destroy it and call the ATF ?

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Those are either fully auto sear or three round burst
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner.
Your right, full auto parts
Poor guy didn't like the bad news.
The real funny part is the lower isn't marked with auto or burst. And I'm curious where the previous owner acquired such NFA parts.
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dang, who sells ARs at a yard sale?

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Those are either fully auto sear or three round burst

I am not trying to start a fight or be a a##hole. This is just a question what gives you the right to destroy it and call the ATF ?
Pretty jacked up I thought to pal
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I am not trying to start a fight or be a a##hole. This is just a question what gives you the right to destroy it and call the ATF ?
The fact that my customer is not LE or Military, the serial number on the lower receiver puts the date of manufacture after 1986 and therefore is not in the registry. In addition I have a professional responsibility to not have illegal firearms or parts in my shop.
It's real simple, I'm not a Class III dealer and when a controlled part that is un-registered show's up in my shop I'm not going to be committing a crime by returning said part.
I'm sorry if I sound like an a**hole when it comes to this but dealing with Class III weapons/restricted items there is no room for mistakes when dealing with ATF.

Edit: Also, when I spoke with ATF they weren't looking for blood, they just wanted the hammer and sear destroyed.
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The fact that my customer is not LE or Military, the serial number on the lower receiver puts the date of manufacture after 1986 and therefore is not in the registry. In addition I have a professional responsibility to not have illegal firearms or parts in my shop.
It's real simple, I'm not a Class III dealer and when a controlled part that is un-registered show's up in my shop I'm not going to be committing a crime by returning said part.
I'm sorry if I sound like an a**hole when it comes to this but dealing with Class III weapons/restricted items there is no room for mistakes when dealing with ATF.

Edit: Also, when I spoke with ATF they weren't looking for blood, they just wanted the hammer and sear destroyed.
What did u do to help him out with the deal then, did u stad behind him an fix it???? If u did I respect that fully, if not well u know, I lost a gun my grandfather brought home from ww2 becouse of the same crap. I was ignorant of the law yes but it was a cherished gun to have him do that sure made alot of bad blood between us
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What did u do to help him out with the deal then, did u stad behind him an fix it???? If u did I respect that fully, if not well u know, I lost a gun my grandfather brought home from ww2 becouse of the same crap. I was ignorant of the law yes but it was a cherished gun to have him do that sure made alot of bad blood between us
I always do my best to fix an issue like this when it crops up with no cost to my customer.
If I happen to have the parts in stock, they're added for free with no labor. Just the cost of the original work.
And if they would like to upgrade at this time, I get the parts for them and charge them only my cost...aka, no markup for me and no charge for labor.
Fortunately these guns don't come in very often, but when they do I love the story behind them.

In this case, he only wants stock AR-15 parts back in with nothing fancy.
He walked back out the door 3 hours after everything was taken care of.
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dang, who sells ARs at a yard sale?
The guys around here, but half the time they don't work right or they're rusted to hell and back again.
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Those arent sears. First is a full auto hammer perfectly legal. Second is a full auto disconect again a legal part. The sear itsel is the naughty bit. If the reciever has a third hole above the safety thats the naughty hole that makes a reciever illegal.

Most people grind off the auto notch on those parts to avoid the hassle of different atf agents with different opinions. Since there has not been a real standard in dealing with the illegal ban on fa firearms the batfe can decide on a whim what will land you in jail.

At one point if you had an ar15 and a shoestring in your sneakers the atf could send you to prison...

Most liekly what he bought was a host for a drop in auto sear which is a regiatered nfa part and can be found in post 86 recievers

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