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Old 06-10-2013, 01:17 AM   #11
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What you are trying to do ain't nuthin' new. People have been banging
out firearms for hundreds of years. Heck--there is a village in Pakistan
that pretty much does it full time, and they make complex firearms that
can fool experts----working over a dried mule poop fire with the previously
mentioned 2 files and a hammer.

First thing to do is buy yourself the "I wanta be a gunsmith" wish book,
the Brownell's catalog. Purchase price refunded on your first order--and
you WILL be placing an order.

Then maybe a cruise over to the Numrich website---check out the exploded
views with the names of all the itty bitty parts. Buy your cheap beater
whatever to play gunsmith with. Take it apart and put it together a few
times. Order the little spring loaded whatzit from Numrich that shot off
into a parallel universe when you took the gun apart the first time.

Welcome to the insanity.
Bill, an insanity, addiction or a passion?
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Bill, an insanity, addiction or a passion?
All of the above. And there are "levels".

I started out with the two files and a hammer.

Then it was a good set of screwdrivers--then pin,
starter and drift punches---

Now I have that fully equipped machine shop,
and I'm considering setting up bluing tanks.

Just as a hobby--

Hmmm---maybe we should toss disease and obsession
into the hat along with insanity addiction and passion?
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All of the above. And there are "levels".

I started out with the two files and a hammer.

Then it was a good set of screwdrivers--then pin,
starter and drift punches---

Now I have that fully equipped machine shop,
and I'm considering setting up bluing tanks.

Just as a hobby--

Hmmm---maybe we should toss disease and obsession
into the hat along with insanity addiction and passion?
quite true! firearms started as an interest for me, then a passion, then an addiction!

maybe i have moved past obsession and moved to the diseased part now!
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You have been given some good advice (so far, anyway....)

Would offer couple more bits- spend some time learning about metals. And if you have access to the internet, you can learn. Steel is not steel- it is an alloy of iron, carbon, and a host of other metals. Steel has different crystalline forms that appear at different temps- purpose of heat treating metals is to get it to the crystal state you want, and by quenching it, hold that crystal pattern. Look up cementite and austentite- both are steel- different crystal structure.

You should spend more time on your drawing than in drilling and filing. By drawing I do not mean doodling something that would look REALLY cool- I mean laying out and blueprinting what you will build. That is how gun makers get all those parts to work together without interfering with each other.
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I do thank all of you for all the needed information. Any tips on a good starter project? I thought about the ar 15 or m1 garand but I feel that if I buy parts and put it together then I'm not really building the gun. How do you all feel about that and omwhat are your opinions?
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For a decent "first time" find a good kit for a single shot muzzleloader. Get some experience with wood and metal working- filing, drilling, bluing or browning, etc.
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A rifle's overall length is only 24". But if you are making a smoothe bore, even a .22 would be considered a shotgun, and a shotgun must have an 18" bbl and be 26" OAL.
The following is a discussion including where to download a blueprint for five bucks as well as internal pictures of the single shot action and completed pictures.
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,199913.0.html

And another from all over the globe from downright dirty to extremely professional: http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?;act=SF;f=3

Deciding what to build may be the hardest problem, but there is always a use for another .22
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A rifle's overall length is only 24". But if you are making a smoothe bore, even a .22 would be considered a shotgun, and a shotgun must have an 18" bbl and be 26" OAL.
The following is a discussion including where to download a blueprint for five bucks as well as internal pictures of the single shot action and completed pictures.
http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/index.php/topic,199913.0.html

And another from all over the globe from downright dirty to extremely professional: http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?;act=SF;f=3

Deciding what to build may be the hardest problem, but there is always a use for another .22
a rifle has to have at least a 16" barrel to be legal, vs. the 18" barrel for a shotgun but a rifle still has to have the same OAL of 26", just like a shotgun to be legal. check the BATF website for proof on this.
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Thank you all for your advice.

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Something on this order might be a good start(like C3 says).................
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=868&osCsid=a92rafjkgv 3atieghnc9nsf311

If you read about people "making their own guns" you will find that the nicer looking ones take months to build.
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