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Old 08-06-2011, 06:04 AM   #11
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Haha, i never heard a single thing about Mosins being innacurate, (some people just must not be as good of a shot as an illiterate russian) one of the reasons i bought mine in the first place. I woulda guessed that the milsurp ammo was not very consistent, as they were just trying to get as much of it out the door as they could. Could the shooting high problem be resolved by using heavier grain rounds? Right now i am using 174 grain MFS FMJ and the surp rounds were i believe something like 147 grain.

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Hello,

Folks do seem to think these are inaccurate minute-of-torso pieces.

Google "Mosin-Nagant accuracy precision". Lots of Mosin bashing going on, especially by the AR crowd before they figured out that MNs can be good...

I'm on LOTS of boards, and that's where this lil' article came from -- folks would ask me why I was trying to turn a pig's ear into a silk purse and all that.

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I'm repeating what I read elsewhere on this forum, but here goes.

Affixing bayonet does NOT make it more accurate, it just changes the point of impact. Thus, at 100 yards, it is not uncommon for 2-3 MOA with or without the bayonet. It is just that without the bayo, the POI is about 8" high and to the right. Thus 3 shots with bayo followed by 3 shots without bayo (same point of aim) will result in 2 relatively tight groups at two different points on the paper.

Anyway, who doesn't want a 7-foot long pointy stick that goes BOOM?

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from what i understand 7.62x54r in ww2 used a 180-210 grain bullet. after ww2 the russians reuced the weight to 147 grain range in order to reduce wear on their light machine guns so weapons like the svd were design to fire that lighter bullet.

ive gotten some astounding groups out of 1960s-1990s surplus but ive also gotten bad groups. i think a lot of it is because ammo quality of surplus is spotty at best.

most of the ammo used in mosins is very light weight and accuracy can be very spotty using the light bullets. it can be very accurate as well. i got some 7n1 ammo used in svd rifles it was terrible in my mosin sniper. my 7.62x54r dies should be here this coming week. i plan n rolling some loads more in line for what a mosin rifling is designed for.

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The SVD was designed to shoot any bullet. 180gr are best. The Soviets never made a jacketed bullet heavier then 182gr in 7.62x54r. 147gr light ball was adopted to copy German 8x57 of the day, 147gr. The U.S. also changed to 150gr just to accomodate the M1 Garand. The Brits were the hold out staying w/ 174gr BT. The Japanese combined the .30-06 and .303 in their 7.7mm. .30-06 case, brit bullet as parents. 180gr 7.62x54r is smooth as silk. Recoil is actually mild and man does it hit. The Soviets did copy the .303 in bullet design, an aluminum nose under the jacket to make it tumble upon impact.

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Shortly after I picked up my Mosin I found a YouTube video of a dude ringing a plate at 640 yards off a bench with a M/N.

I've not had the opportunity to shoot mine past 100 yards but at 100 I can get three touching when shooting off a bench rest.

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I love mine - $120 - it is a man's rifle. Russians know how to make weapons!

Accuracy: It is more accurate than I am... I can hit the 8.5x11" paper at 100 yards so I am happy.

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How about thoughts between a 91/30 vs. M44...

And price is a consideration. At $100-150 how does the 91/30 stack up against the $200-250 of the M44?

I am really drawn to the shorter length of the M44. Plus, as long as the bayo should be affixed for point of aim to be closer to correct, the fact that the M44 has the bayo already sitting there ready to go is a big plus.

But is the M44 really twice as good?

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Ive been keeping my open for one in good shape ive seen em at the range and they shoot a very very impressive fireball.

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