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Stevie 12-26-2009 04:36 AM

Is it worth it?
 
Is a moison nagant with bayonet,sling,ammo pouch, and a couple extra clips a good buy for $119 bucks? Are these rifles hard to take care of?What should I look for when picking one out?

VitSports6 12-26-2009 06:03 AM

Ive just recently acquired one and have yet to get the cosmoline off mine, But, If you have a look here http://7.62x54r.net all your questions will be answered.
FWIW, I bought my '42 91/30 Mosin round receiver with all the above and more, 100 rounds, Back ground check and tax for $130.00
Im sure it will depend on what model you are looking at.
Good luck

c3shooter 12-26-2009 09:32 AM

Have to disagree just a bit with foregoing. Hoppes does not fix cleanup after corrosive primed ammo. The Potassium Chlorate primer burn to potassium chloride. That is WATER soluble. Not Hoppes. WASH the bore with hot water (and a drop of Dawn dish detergent) You can still use the Hoppes for copper fouling, powder fouling, etc. but is will not dissolve the salt left in bore.

My take on the M-N ? Said it before- Heavy, crude, ugly as a mud fence, more durable than a cast iron frying pan, will work after being run over by a tank, enuff energy to shoot one or two zip codes, and a great buy for the money. Stock up on the milsurp ammo, it will not last forever.

Surplusrifle.com has some good info, including a good article on improving the trigger pull, and "sticky bolt syndrome".

jpattersonnh 12-26-2009 12:51 PM

C3 is correct. I use boiling water and a drop of dish soap after shooting, then clean as usual. Ammonia is another internet suggestion to stay away from. Just put a drop on the outside of the barrel and come back in a day you will see what I mean. I would look for one of the re-arsenaled rifles. R-guns has some really nice ones. The Hex receives are the most interesting. Theys are original rifles in perfect condition w/ dates from 1922 to 1935. For that money you should be getting a nice 91/30. The M44 and M38 don't shoot as well in my book, although I have a Hungarian M44 that is a great shooter. Oiler, ammo pouch, are just things that take up space. Be careful if you try and put the bayonet on, it may not want to come off!!

Edit! Hey C3, you forgot to say the bayonet makes a great tomato stake!!

Highpower 12-26-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noyes (Post 204388)
It's easy...........
corrosive ammo, but the time tested Hoppe's #9 is does the job as well as any of them.

I too will respectfully disagree with that statement.
The British did not develop the cleaning funnel for Enfield rifles to pour Hoppe's down the bore. ;)

And ammonia not only attacks copper, but steel as well! That is why all the "copper solvents" on the market have warnings on the label against leaving it in the bore for an extended length of time.

Laufer 12-27-2009 04:01 AM

Just a different type of cleaning question.
Have been cleaning with hot water since my first MN arrive in '07. Now also have three Lee-Enfields.

As for Hoppes in the rifling, if follow-up slow patches somehow fail to remove the chemical in the grooves, do they always dry out very quickly in a typically dry room?

gandog56 12-30-2009 02:47 PM

I just went to the Hoppes web site. In the FAQ's somebody asked if Hoppes #9 worked on corrosive ammo. Hoppes said yes.

jpattersonnh 12-30-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandog56 (Post 206133)
I just went to the Hoppes web site. In the FAQ's somebody asked if Hoppes #9 worked on corrosive ammo. Hoppes said yes.

Sure it will clean, but says nothing about nutralizing the salts.

gandog56 01-01-2010 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpattersonnh (Post 206138)
Sure it will clean, but says nothing about nutralizing the salts.

Well they said good for the corrosive ammo, so I am assuming it neutralizes it.


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