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04-06-2012, 12:32 AM
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Why the Craze?
First off I want to say I don't want to start a fight and stir up a hornet's nest. I have held, but never fired, several Mosin Nagants. I've worked the bolts and examined them, but don't see why people love them so much. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are good solid rifles, but what makes people so crazy about them and makes them as good as modern rifles? I love the history behind rifles and their uses when they were in action, but why the Nagant? Is it the price? Or maybe its historical significance?
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04-06-2012, 12:48 AM
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price of the rifle and ammo. they are superb shooters pretty much any mosin with a barrel that isnt counterbored or worn out will shoot at or around 1moa with a scope and handloads or good quality new ammo.
my best group with handloads with my mosin 91/30 pu sniper is 3 rounds right at .75 inches at 100yds. most of my shooting with it isnt that good but thats more me than the rifle.
most ammo is realllllly crappy surplus with huge variation in charge weights and bullet weights. but even with that all my mosins will hold right at 2-3 moa open sights.
construction is super simple and every part is totally user servicable. there is just about nothing that cant easily be repaired.
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04-06-2012, 12:50 AM
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Easily obtained at low prices.
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04-06-2012, 12:51 AM
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What's not to love?
Cheap as under $100
Historically significant
Good solid "drag it behind your pickup down a dirt road,pick it up,shoot case of ammo" feel
440 round tins for $80
Not to mention you can feel the concussion AND hit your neighbors barn from two counties over,plus it just makes you giggle when all the leaves on the tree branch hanging over you come fluttering down when you light one off.
Simply put... their just good,cheap fun.
---Shoot To Thrill---
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04-06-2012, 12:51 AM
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It's a combination of things. The price the history. It is a powerful cartridge for not much money which means you can afford to shoot it. They are rough, have crappy triggers and yet many of them are still quite accurate. Ammo is cheaper than dirt. Try one you'll like it. Try the M44 and shoot it in low light conditions and enjoy the fire works.
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04-06-2012, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jstrong
What's not to love?
Cheap as under $100
Historically significant
Good solid "drag it behind your pickup down a dirt road,pick it up,shoot case of ammo" feel
440 round tins for $80
Not to mention you can feel the concussion AND hit your neighbors barn from two counties over,plus it just makes you giggle when all the leaves on the tree branch hanging over you come fluttering down when you light one off.
Simply put... their just good,cheap fun.
---Shoot To Thrill---
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Ain't that the truth, I was expecting a little recoil but it surprised the crap outta me.
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Rifle's:
New Haven 740T by Mossberg .22WMR
High Standard "Sport King" pump action .22S, .22L, .22LR
Rem 700 ADL .270 Win
Long Branch No4 Mk1* .303 Brit Sporterized
1944 Izhevsk Mosin-Nagant 91/30.
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Remington "The Sportsman" 16ga
Marlin Model 55 "Goose Gun" 12ga
Muzzleloader's:
Thompson Center "Hawken" .45cal
Thompson Center "Thunderhawk" .50cal
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Taurus PT-1911AR .45ACP
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04-06-2012, 04:40 AM
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It pains me to say this. (I used to have a Ruskie gun fetish..  ) The more mil-surps I shoot, the worse I think the Mosin is.. They have the worst triggers, sights, the safety is just plain awful, and if I shoot anything but good brass ammo, I need a 2x4 to operate the bolt...
Everybody gives me crap for liking Arisakas, but their better than a Mosin...
I dont get all the Mosin love.. Its ok, for what it is..
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04-06-2012, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by JonM
price of the rifle and ammo. they are superb shooters pretty much any mosin with a barrel that isnt counterbored or worn out will shoot at or around 1moa with a scope and handloads or good quality new ammo.
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I thought the counterbore didn't make a difference when it came to accuracy other than removing the damaged rifling.
What attracts me to the Mosin is it's history, and it's price. I LOVE the fact that I can shoot a really powerful rifle all day for very little money.
Another neat thing about the Mosin is that no two are exactly the same. They usually have a ton of stamps and marks on them, and they tell the story of that particular rifle.
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04-06-2012, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Georgiahunter
First off I want to say I don't want to start a fight and stir up a hornet's nest. I have held, but never fired, several Mosin Nagants. I've worked the bolts and examined them, but don't see why people love them so much. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are good solid rifles, but what makes people so crazy about them and makes them as good as modern rifles? I love the history behind rifles and their uses when they were in action, but why the Nagant? Is it the price? Or maybe its historical significance?
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Are you serious ?
Well here this is the best way I can explain it..............
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04-06-2012, 04:06 PM
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I'd love to have one of those Remington Mosins. If I ever find one, I won't hesitate to get it.
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