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Old 08-11-2011, 10:38 PM   #11
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http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-11/atf-p-5300-11.pdf
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http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/

This page explains it pretty well.
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Old 08-15-2011, 05:40 PM   #13
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This thread got me wondering about "old" firearms, especially since I have several (my deceased grandfathers 1880's Webley MP revolver for example) that fall under the C&R banner. I don't normally deal with C&R firearms since most of my personal "antique " firearms - such as my SA Army revolvers and "73 Winchester - are modern reproductions. Anyway, my question is does having a firearm that's considered an antique exempt it from regular ATF rules, like the usual forms when purchasing/selling it with neither buyer and seller being a FFL holder, or transporting and shipping it? My understanding is it's similar to the rules for BP firearms with some exceptions.
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C&R- the individual firearm (not the model- THAT gun right there) is EITHER 50 yrs old or older, in its original configuration, OR it is on the list published by the BATFE- does not need to be both. A 49 yr old Marlin 39A is NOT a C&R- a 50 yr old 39A IS a C&R. A Colt Woodsman or a Winchester Mdl 88 rifle IS a C&R, without regard to age- they are specifically named.

Antique- the firearm in question was made prior to 1-1-1899, OR is a muzzleloader made anytime (that does not readily convert to conventional firearm). Reproductions of pre 1899 guns are also antiques IF they do not use ammo readily available in the US. I could make a series of caliber .30 rimfire revolvers, copying the ones from 1870, and they would be antiques- no .30 rimfire ammo made in over 100 yrs.

An antique is NOT a firearm (see 18 US Code 922). As far as the Feds are concerned, you can put it (unloaded) in the US Mail, and send directly to a buyer in another state. SOME state laws (NY and possibly NJ) do not allow that.
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Curio: Guns that may not be 50 years old yet but were deemed curio (curious firearm) because of one reason or another. The CZ82.....No Czech army anymore so they were deemed "curiousities" by batfe.

A gun OVER 50 years is considered a RELIC.
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