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Pounce 09-23-2007 04:04 PM

The VZ-82
 
A while back I picked up a VZ-82 from SOG.
I used my C&R. Being as it's nowhere near 50 yrs. old, does anyone here know how it became C&R eligible? It doesn't seem to fit any of the requirements.The lady who took my order didn't know either.:confused:

1984cj 09-24-2007 01:00 AM

The ATF can add any weapon that it feels like to the C&R list.

It's good to be the king. :(

Chuck 09-24-2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1984cj (Post 8756)
The ATF can add any weapon that it feels like to the C&R list.

It's good to be the king. :(

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...dm1998/ATF.gif

Southern6er 09-24-2007 03:04 PM

VZ-82???

I've heard of the CZ-82, but not the VZ... can you post up some pics??? Curiousity has me wondering now!

Pounce 09-24-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern6er (Post 8781)
VZ-82???

I've heard of the CZ-82, but not the VZ... can you post up some pics??? Curiousity has me wondering now!

I do believe the vz is Gov. and CZ is civie.
The vz-82 is the one you get with a c&r and the cz-83 is the civilian where you need a ffl 1.

The vz-52 CESKA ZBROJOVKA, is not the cz although it is called that a lot.

This is my understanding. But all the same, does anyone know why it's a c&r at only 20+?

Gortok 03-27-2011 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pounce (Post 8786)
I do believe the vz is Gov. and CZ is civie.
The vz-82 is the one you get with a c&r and the cz-83 is the civilian where you need a ffl 1.

The vz-52 CESKA ZBROJOVKA, is not the cz although it is called that a lot.

This is my understanding. But all the same, does anyone know why it's a c&r at only 20+?


Ceska Zbrojovka is the manufacturer. It translates to Czech Armory.
CZ is the abbreviation.
VZ or VZOR translates to "model"

So, you have a CZ vzor 82.

They were made in 9mm makarov 9x18 and in 32acp.

CZ made vzors 27, 38, 50, 52, 70, 75, 82, 83, 85, 97, 100 and a joint effort with Colt "40". Their latest efforts include P01 P06, P07 and many others. Not to mention excellent rifles.

The reason the 82 are C&R is mainly because no one uses the makarov cartridge any more. (9mm and .380 dominate the market. The Makarov is between the two in size and power.)
It's a shame really. My CZ82 is incredibly reliable and accurate. The Brown and Silver Bear Russian ammo is damn cheap, too.

:cool:

The "other " CZ you are referring to is the Crvena Zastava...It is manufactured in Yugoslavia. NOT the same thing. They are marketed by EAA.

jpattersonnh 03-27-2011 09:53 PM

The ATF picks what they feel are obselete arms/ ammo for C&R. No rhyme or reason. Just like antique. You can but a pre 1899 rifle without any background check, or you can buy the same basic rifle in the same caliber made in the 1950's that is C&R, or the same model again that is new manufacture and requires a standard FFL. Look at the Mauser '98. It is still manufactured today by Mauser.

orangello 03-28-2011 06:55 PM

Nice info, but this is a 2007 vintage thread. Still good info, though.

jpattersonnh 03-28-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by orangello (Post 474632)
Nice info, but this is a 2007 vintage thread. Still good info, though.

I only saw the date on the post above mine. Vintage or maybe "surplus" dated thread.


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