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Old 12-03-2013, 01:36 PM   #1
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I have posted some pictures of this gun in another thread but I wanted to give it a thread of its own. I bought this gun several years ago because the guy selling it only wanted a couple hundred bucks for it. I just figured I would put it in the vault and maybe try to clean it up one rainy day. A few of months ago I decided to bite the bullet (so to speak) and try to find someone to restore it as much as possible. I settled on the guys at "The Old Gun Doctor" in Cambridge, IN. I had to wait 3 or 4 months for them to catch up on their work before sending them the gun which I did about a month ago. I got my first project update yesterday and this is what Jeff had to say.

Dear Sir,

Wanted to let you know we have your project completely stripped down and that ugly front sight removed from the front of the barrel. In researching the serial number to find the correct parts. It appears this is a model that was made in 1879 and shipped directly to the Louisiana state volunteers as a full length rifle. Sometime later in its life it was cut down to the carbine length as many of them were. So we are searching for the correct period parts.

Till next time,

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Jeff did recommend that I only shoot black powder loads in it which is what I intend to do. I just need to come up with a load that's as close to what the ammo of the period was as possible. I have asked Jeff if possible could he take a few pictures through out the project and if he can I will update this thread from time to time. Following is what the gun looked like when he got it.

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All the parts you need are quite easy to find and most are available from S&S frearms and trapdoorcollector.com. If it takes more than 30 days to complete the project, they are dragging their feet. Please post some detailed pictures when you get it back.

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All the parts you need are quite easy to find and most are available from S&S frearms and trapdoorcollector.com. If it takes more than 30 days to complete the project, they are dragging their feet. Please post some detailed pictures when you get it back.
I will and thanks for the info.
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I have several original "saddle ring" carbines and shoot them often with black powder and a light Unique load. Remember that in 1876 the Army used a heavy loading for rifles and a lighter charge for carbines, so with your cut down a lighter charge will definitely be easier to shoot. The restoration process will render collector interest to a minimum but should make it a fun shooter.

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Original rifle and carbine loads were 70 grains of bp with a 500 grain bullet. Later carbine loads were reduced to 55 grains of bp and a 405 grain bullet. If you use the light loads you will need to use a wad under the bullet so the powder gets compressed.


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Its already a cut down rifle so there is no collector interest anyway.
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I already cast 405 gr. +/- bullets depending on the alloy. I usually use 9 lbs. of clip on wheel weights and 1 lb. 50/50 bar solder so thats what I'll be loading. I'll just be punching holes in paper so light loads will be more fun anyway. Not like I will be fighting the Battle of Greasy Grass again. I knew their wasn't much collecters interest anyway because of the condition. I'll have way more in it than it worth (story of my life) but I want to leave it better than I found it. Thanks for the advice.

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