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04-01-2011, 02:19 AM | #1 | Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Augusta, Georgia Posts: 131 | Thinking about a mosin?
I see a lot of guys with the Mosin-Nagants, and they seem to enjoy the the guns, Have seen them around town for $90 to $125. Passed up a nice one at the last gun show for 125, bought a M24/47 8mm Mauser instead ( wife had a fit when she caught me cleaning the cosmolene out in the tub in the spare bath, but it was cold outside ). Would like some advice on what to look for on the Mosins. Thanks |
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04-01-2011, 11:23 AM | #2 | Iron Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South central, NH Posts: 3,262 Likes Given: 2
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These guys have always been good to deal with.
Mosin Nagant
As are these guys..
RGUNS - Bolt Action Rifles
You will hear that Tula guns are better, From a shooting standpoint that is not true.
I ordered a hex receiver 91/30 for a friend a while back. He received a Izhevsk 1926 Ex-Dragoon that still had the original barrel w/ the old pre hammer and sickle stamp and the original stock w/ brass end caps. It was in perfect condition. I'm not sure how it escaped ever going into service in WW2. The sights were upgraded to 91/30 specs at some time. 1926 was the last year the Dragoon was made. He paid $99.00 shipped. I have Tula and Izhevsk, hex and round receivers. Accuracy is about the same w/ them all. Except for my post war PU sniper. The best 91/30 I have is a 1938 Izhevsk round receiver Finn capture from the Winter war. It is odd because it is still in 91/30 configuration. The only modifications I can find is the front sight post was ground in the back and is slightly longer then my Soviet rifles and the trigger was been modified in some way that makes it smoother. The red Soviet shellac is gone and it was oiled in typical Finn fashion.
You really can't go wrong w/ any of them. There are many that were re-arsenaled and are like new. Shy away from a counter bored rifle although I did have one and it was an exceptional shooter. Make sure the numbers match!! __________________ Freedom is not free. The best of us always leave too soon. |
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04-01-2011, 05:27 PM | #3 | Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Augusta, Georgia Posts: 131 |
Thanks for the input, what do i need to look at when you said "counter bored" ? |
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04-01-2011, 06:03 PM | #4 | Sic Semper Tyrannis Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , The Mother Lode Posts: 18,437 | 
They're great and stout rifles. They are fairly accurate and ammo's still pretty cheap.
About counter-boring: if you look in the muzzle, the rifling should come all the way to the end of the barrel. If it stops a bit back from the crown, it's been counter-bored. The muzzles and crowns got pretty beat up, so counter-boring helped restore accuracy. But, if it's been counter-bored, it's been restored more or less to combat accuracy, however a non counter-bored model will generally be more accurate.
These are not target/tack driving rifles. They were designed to be used by Russian peasants to kill enemies, not to win matches.
If you buy one, make sure that the numbers match. The reason for that is that the parts are original to the rifle and have mated together over the years. Matching numbers don't really add anything to the value, it just makes for a better rifle.
They are a hoot to shoot and will hit minute of zombie all day. Just don't expect much more and you'll be very happy with one.
I've owned three over the years and they've been good shooters for me, but I just can't seem to hang on to them.
Try and shoot it at night or at least twilight, you'll be impressed by the muzzle flash.  __________________ Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) - a system of government where those least capable of leadership are elected by those least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to succeed or provide for themselves are rewarded with goods and services paid for by wealth confiscated from a diminishing number of people who actually work and produce.
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04-02-2011, 12:53 AM | #5 | Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Augusta, Georgia Posts: 131 |
thanks for the info on counter boring. We got a gun show here this wknd so i'm gonna go and take a gander and see what I can find. I'll have to go to the show on saturday cause I got zombie patrol sat nite! |
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04-02-2011, 01:04 AM | #6 | I'm always 10-8 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 150 miles NE of Sloppy Joe's Bar, in the "GunShine" State Posts: 19,200 Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts Likes Given: 6
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Get on the list, and cough up the hand select. It's worth every penny!
Russian 1891/30 7.62x54R Mosin Nagant Rifle $69.95
It's where I got my 91/30;
And get your ammo at the same time!
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04-02-2011, 01:54 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: south of louisville, Kentucky Posts: 508 |
I have one just got a month ago, love it the way the russian set this weapon up you can do a lot to it, the firing mech is simple, uber simple to take apart. I can honestly say I will never buy a commercial hunting rifle again.
I know it sounds crazy but you can pretty much adjust anything needed to, the flat head screw driver has marks in it to measure firing pin depth. the bolt can be taken completly apart, you get parts to make into a more modern hunting rifle.
The only thing I really don't like about them is the metal but plate but you can get replacments for those. __________________ "ever man out here has a timer, no one know how long it will take but no one last forever"
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04-02-2011, 03:18 PM | #8 | Iron Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South central, NH Posts: 3,262 Likes Given: 2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmille01
The only thing I really don't like about them is the metal but plate but you can get replacments for those.
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That is for bashing skulls and opening doors!! A plastic butt plate would simple crack and fall apart! __________________ Freedom is not free. The best of us always leave too soon. |
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04-02-2011, 08:30 PM | #9 | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Albany, maine Posts: 2 |
I own a mosin karbina, i love it. Its my first ww2 gun, and ill never part with it. Fun to shoot and plenty of ammo out there. Deff purchase one next time u get the chance, especially if you can find a PU scope to go along with it. |
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04-02-2011, 11:29 PM | #10 | Supporting Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sapulpa, Oklahoma Posts: 917 |
I took wife and her grown son to the big gun show today. We came out with 2 Mosin Nagant 91-30's at $99 each, w/ bayonets and accessary packs. Stocks look to be pretty good shape. Wife wants to try it on deer, but I don't handload, and I'm presuming surplus/factory ammo is all military FMJ?
Anyway, at first we were going to shoot them tomorrow, but they are going to need some degreasing first.
Any guides on FTF for loading, cleaning, maintenance on these? My only experience with rifles previously have been modern sporting guns, not milsurp. |
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