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01-08-2012, 04:34 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 168 | Pinfire revolvers
I picked up a unique gun at a local gun show recently, a nickle plated pinfire revolver, probably 9mm though I'm not certain. The gun is in EXCELLENT condition and operates perfectly. I was able to research a fair amount of information about it but still had a few questions I haven't been able to answer. I did discover from a proof mark on the cylinder that the revolver was made in the city of Liège, Belgium and "ELG" is the proof mark used by this city from 1811 until 1893. It also has the letter "L" with a crown above it showing it was made between 1853 and January 1877. There is another mark on the frame, near the left front, beneath the cylinder, the letters "VP", that I haven't been able to figure out yet.
My question is can anyone tell me what the VP means and what this little gem may be worth. FYI, I'm not really interested in whether I got a "steal" or was ripped off when I bought the revolver. I got it for less than $200 so even if it's a copy or turns out to be one of a million others, it will be a nice conversation piece. __________________ "... Americans... we want a safe home, to keep the money we make and shoot bad guys." -- Denny Crane Last edited by rachilders; 01-08-2012 at 05:05 AM. |
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01-08-2012, 04:39 AM | #2 | Game on... Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sewell, NJ Posts: 3,515 |
I will assume that C3 will be along shortly to "fill you in" on the history of that pistol. The man is a walking encyclopedia of firearms knowledge... __________________ "His nuts...they gone." - Karen "Bullseye" Smith
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." - George Washington |
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01-08-2012, 04:50 AM | #3 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calhoun, Louisiana Posts: 6,209 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
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Originally Posted by Jpyle
I will assume that C3 will be along shortly to "fill you in" on the history of that pistol. The man is a walking encyclopedia of firearms knowledge...
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We should get him a tee shirt. __________________ LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!! |
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01-08-2012, 05:29 AM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: fordland, missouri Posts: 4,876 |
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Originally Posted by trip286
We should get him a tee shirt.
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Yep
God didnt make all men equal colonel sam colt did __________________ Aim small miss small-the patriot
one well placed headshot=not known what hit it-me |
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01-08-2012, 05:40 AM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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Yours looks like a Belgian copy of the French Lefaucheaux revolver. Most pinfires were made in odd numbered metric calibers- 5, 7, 9, 11 etc. The price is about right- of course, value of ANY gun is based on exact make, model, and condition. VP is part of the proof IIRC. Means View Proof.
IF yours is in shooting condition, AND you want to shoot it, here is the kit to reload black powder pinfire cartridges. Reloading kit for 7, 9, 11mm pinfire cartridges - revive your vintage Lefaucheux revolvers - - H.L. Publishing
For those not familiar with pinfires, they predate rimfires- the gun did not have a firing pin, but each cartridge did. __________________ What we have heah is.... failure to communicate. |
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01-08-2012, 05:43 AM | #6 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calhoun, Louisiana Posts: 6,209 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
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Originally Posted by c3shooter
Yours looks like a Belgian copy of the French Lefaucheaux revolver. Most pinfires were made in odd numbered metric calibers- 5, 7, 9, 11 etc. The price is about right- of course, value of ANY gun is based on exact make, model, and condition. VP is part of the proof IIRC. Means View Proof.
IF yours is in shooting condition, AND you want to shoot it, here is the kit to reload black powder pinfire cartridges. Reloading kit for 7, 9, 11mm pinfire cartridges - revive your vintage Lefaucheux revolvers - - H.L. Publishing
For those not familiar with pinfires, they predate rimfires- the gun did not have a firing pin, but each cartridge did.
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Originally Posted by Jpyle
I will assume that C3 will be along shortly to "fill you in" on the history of that pistol. The man is a walking encyclopedia of firearms knowledge...
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Good call jpyle. __________________ LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!! |
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01-08-2012, 05:45 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: fordland, missouri Posts: 4,876 |
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Originally Posted by c3shooter
Yours looks like a Belgian copy of the French Lefaucheaux revolver. Most pinfires were made in odd numbered metric calibers- 5, 7, 9, 11 etc. The price is about right- of course, value of ANY gun is based on exact make, model, and condition. VP is part of the proof IIRC. Means View Proof.
IF yours is in shooting condition, AND you want to shoot it, here is the kit to reload black powder pinfire cartridges. Reloading kit for 7, 9, 11mm pinfire cartridges - revive your vintage Lefaucheux revolvers - - H.L. Publishing
For those not familiar with pinfires, they predate rimfires- the gun did not have a firing pin, but each cartridge did.
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Ya and they are a major pain in the rump cuz they have to be loaded just a certain way or else whole dang thing might blow up in your hands from everything iv ever hear/read about em. Now do you want a pink or purple tshirt c3??
God didnt make all men equal colonel sam colt did __________________ Aim small miss small-the patriot
one well placed headshot=not known what hit it-me |
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01-08-2012, 05:50 AM | #8 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calhoun, Louisiana Posts: 6,209 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
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Oh come on, he deserves a manly color  maybe fuchsia. __________________ LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!! |
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01-08-2012, 05:55 AM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: fordland, missouri Posts: 4,876 |
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Originally Posted by trip286
Oh come on, he deserves a manly color  maybe fuchsia.
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How about pink and purple tye dye with bright yellow glittery letters?
God didnt make all men equal colonel sam colt did __________________ Aim small miss small-the patriot
one well placed headshot=not known what hit it-me |
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01-08-2012, 05:58 AM | #10 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calhoun, Louisiana Posts: 6,209 Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts
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Originally Posted by Marlinman
How about pink and purple tye dye with bright yellow glittery letters?
God didnt make all men equal colonel sam colt did
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Hell yeah! I'd bet money he'd wear it too, just as long as the lettering says something pretty cool. __________________ LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC!! |
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