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Old 09-10-2013, 01:40 AM   #1
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Just got dropped off at my house this afternoon. 1943 izhevsk PU sniper from AIM. Been researching her markings from tip to butt and so far she looks like the real deal although the only non matching part is the scope to the receiver stamp (the stamp on the left hand side was struck out and the serial of the PU scope was stamped above it....no electropencil though).

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Very nice indeed! I need to add to PU Sniper to my Mosin-Nagant collection. *drools*

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A couple things I'm wondering about while I was doing research as to the authenticity.

First, on the left side of the receiver right above the wood is a scope serial number that was struck out. Of course this tells me that this is indeed sniper hardware. Instead of electropencil though, there is the serial number of my scoped STAMPED in above the lined out serial. Does this point towards them switching out the PU scope for another during military service at the time this sniper was being used? I know electropencil is used when force matching.

Secondly, in just about every single picture I have seen of other PU sniper rifles, the mount that the scope is on, there is electropencil on the side of the mount. For some reason there isn't on mine. It is not aluminum mount either. The way it was designed and the tabs machined down points towards it being an original mount points towards it being THE original mount. What significance does this have?

Any and all knowledge is appreciated as well as anything else I should look for (ie wood on stock looking freshly etc etc.) The bolt is a true sniper bolt, it shows none of the hallmarks of being welded and such. Looking forward to hearing responses!

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Not sure if you know about it but check out 7.62x54r.net

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Nice, way to go !......................

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Thank you for the link That's been pretty much my Russian bible for the last 9 months or so and the very first place I go anytime I need to do research. Unfortunately that site nor a couple of the other better known Mosin sites get into the sniper double stamp as opposed to electropencil or scrubbing.

While I was giving her a deep cleaning this morning I did notice a couple more odd things too.

They say you can tell if the stock is original sniper or not by how fresh the cutout is for the scope. While I had her apart this morning I was looking at specifically that and noticed something. When examing the cut for the mount, the bottom does indeed look like it was freshly cut BUT the sidewalls all the way from top to bottom and also the little cutout on the bottom that drops down a bit more all have the same finish as the rest of the stock? Usually I would surmise that some wood was planed off the bottom but will leave it up to other capable brains for this one.

Another marking I've not encountered in my other Mosins is that while the serial number is in the usual places and matching without scrubbing, strikeouts, or forematching of any kind, there is also the same serial number in the location in the picture. Again none of the markings sites have made any reference to this that I've seen.
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Contact Tuco or Vic.
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As far as variations on Soviet Snipers, there are allot when it comes to Izhevsk.
I have a 1942 Izhevsk that is an original PU, but that year the scope serial number stamp on the receiver was hit or miss. It was often never stamped at all. Mine is not. It also had a new mount and scope added in the late 1950's early '60's. The scope is correct, but has coated optics which were not used by the Soviets untill the last 1/2 of the '50's. The base is the original. The stock is also worn from being rested on hard objects and wrapped in clothe. My scope bears the Progress stamp as most do. It is not dated. It also does not bear the X in a sqaure for rebuilt scopes.

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She's a beauty though and really liking how the wood looks!

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Someone tell me how I can add one of these to my collection, PLEASE!!!

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