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New additions to the family....

Got these in a recent trade. Arisaka Type 38 Cavalry Carbine and type 99 rifle. Picked them up while on a day trip to PA to look at a rental property, and stopped in at one of the shops in the area. Smith had these in the back because they just wouldn't sell, so I offered him $500 for both. Walked out with them for $600 even.

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Very nice looking rifles. What a great find. But they look like they weigh a lot.

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Nice find. Good looking guns.

I'd like to get more milsurp weapons...

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Thanks Winds. The type 38 weighs about 7 pounds, and the 99 weighs about 9 pounds. If one were to carry either one all day they would definitely feel it. One of the first mil-surps I bought is my 1916 Spanish Short rifle. It is my primary deer rifle, and at 7 pounds I do feel it if I am on a long spot and stalk. If I spend the day in the blind,or in a stand, not so much. the one big advantage to a heavier gun is that you feel less recoil. And to think, I am one of those nutcases who took the wood stock of of one of my Mosins to lighten it up.

Guess I really am a gluton for punishment.

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Thanks JW. These two are Arisakas number 3 and 4 in my family, and mil-surps number 22 and 23 on the family total. This is counting the collections of other members of my family. Current count for me is 10 on the mil-surps. two of my uncles have Type 99s, both early production, One is still original, the ither has been re-chambered to .30-06 and sporterized. The one thai is still original is part of a set that includes a Katana minus the subo, an early production Type 30 bayonet with curved quinlon and bird's head pommel. Both were given to my grandfather back in the 1950s by a couple of locsl WWII vet who served with him in the State Police.

I started collecting mil-surps in the late 90s with a barn sale find of an M! Garand and my 1916 Spanish Mauser, so it took a while for me to amass the collection I have. they are out there. just keep doing what I have done with all of my C&Rs, as you see them and have the money, pick them up.

Also, thank you. I too have a tendency to refer to them as weapons. Growing up around Marines, Guns were mounted weapons, not shoulder or hand fired. Or they were in your pants........ Hence it will always be rifle, pistol, shotgun or weapon when I refer to them.
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Thanks Winds. The type 38 weighs about 7 pounds, and the 99 weighs about 9 pounds. If one were to carry either one all day they would definitely feel it. One of the first mil-surps I bought is my 1916 Spanish Short rifle. It is my primary deer rifle, and at 7 pounds id do feel it if I am on a long spot and stalk. If I spend the day in the blind,or in a stand, not so much. the one big advantage to a heavier gun is that you feel less recoil. And to think, I am one of those nutcases who took the wood stock of of one of my Mosins to lighten it up. Guess I really am a gluton for punishment. Thanks JW. These two are Arisakas number 3 and 4 in my family, and mil-surps number 22 and 23 on the family total. This is counting the collections of other members of my family. Current count for me is 10 on the mil-surps. two of my uncles have Type 99s, both early production, One is still original, the ither has been re-chambered to .30-06 and sporterized. The one thai is still original is part of a set that includes a Katana minus the subo, an early production Type 30 bayonet with curved quinlon and bird's head pommel. Both were given to my grandfather back in the 1950s by a couple of locsl WWII vet who served with him in the State Police. I started collecting mil-surps in the late 90s with a barn sale find of an M! Garand and my 1916 Spanish Mauser, so it took a while for me to amass the collection I have. they are out there. just keep doing what I have done with all of my C&Rs, as you see them and have the money, pick them up. Also, thank you. I too have a tendency to refer to them as weapons. Growing up around Marines, Guns were mounted weapons, not shoulder or hand fired. Or they were in your pants........ Hence it will always be rifle, pistol, shotgun or weapon when I refer to them.
Sounds like an interesting collection. I have a (probably) similar Spanish Mauser, chambered in .308.

I'll be expanding my almost non-existent collection when I can. Good luck with yours.
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And by the way, yes they are weapons. Sometimes firearms. Sometimes I get lazy and say "guns," but like I said that's just because of laziness.

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Very nice looking rifles. What a great find. But they look like they weigh a lot.
In General ALL milsurps are heavy with all that wood and heavy steel work to last the duration (These are not delicate target guns), Loaded some of them come close to 10- 12 pounds.
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Sounds like an interesting collection. I have a (probably) similar Spanish Mauser, chambered in .308.

I'll be expanding my almost non-existent collection when I can. Good luck with yours.
Does it look anything like this? Several of them were re-barreled and converted from 7 X 57 MM to 7.62 X 51 MM (Lower pressure than the .308 Winchester, not one and the same) in the early 1960s. Mine is still 7 X 57, and has none of the crests that were on new manufacture rifles. It started out as a full size 1893 or '95, and was cut down to make it a 1916 pattern 1.
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Your type 38 is a actual Type 38 Carbine, The "Cavalry Carbines" were cut down Type 38 long rifles in cut down stocks. Yours being a real carbine is much rarer.... What series and arsenal are both the rifles?

Looks like the Type 99 still has the mum... NICE!!

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Looks like the Type 99 still has the mum... NICE!!
thanks Trez. The 38 is a model of 1905, Nagoya Arsenal, series 20. the 99 is Toyo Kogyo series 28. I'll amend my log for accuray on the 38 carbine.
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