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Old 08-26-2010, 02:36 AM   #11
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So how do you feel about a U.S. Model 1917 rifle being referred to as a P-17?

Enfield No. 2 MK I:

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Well that might explain why I never seen a No. 2 rifle.

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It bugs me. No such thing as a P17.

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So how do you feel about a U.S. Model 1917 rifle being referred to as a P-17?

Enfield No. 2 MK I:

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Pattern 14 (P14) Enfield rifle .303 caliber (very similar to the P17 Eddystone rifle)
Pattern 17 (P17) Eddystone rifle 30-06 caliber

Also, there is an Enfield Pistol No1 Mk2, however you may be more familiar with the Webly & Scott revolvers all of WW1 and WW2 fame.. Webley & Scott also made auto loaders.

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Pattern 14 (P14) Enfield rifle .303 caliber (very similar to the P17 Eddystone rifle)
Pattern 17 (P17) Eddystone rifle 30-06 caliber

Also, there is an Enfield Pistol No1 Mk2, however you may be more familiar with the Webly & Scott revolvers all of WW1 and WW2 fame.. Webley & Scott also made auto loaders.
Pattern 14 rifle. P14.
Rifle, Model of 1917.1917.

The 1917 is not a P17, though that is how they are commonly referred to.
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Exactly.
BTW... they're not ALL Eddystones either.

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Back to the Nagant issue. I hate it when a Mosin Nagant is called a Mosin. 91/30, M44, M38, M39, 91/59 is easier. Yes it could be a U.S. M44, but that usually does not come up on Surplus threads. We are talking arf.com lingo here. What a bunch of mall ninjas.

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Exactly.
BTW... they're not ALL Eddystones either.

What did I miss? All Eddystones are Eddystones.. My reference was about folks calling them pattern 17's or P17's.. I do know a Pattern 14 is not an Eddystone but it "looks" similar.. only in british 303 caliber.

But like Tango said, who really gives a rip as long as you know what they're talking about
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What did I miss?
Ummm... the thread title?
(j/k)

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All Eddystones are Eddystones..
How true.
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My reference was about folks calling them pattern 17's or P17's.. I do know a Pattern 14 is not an Eddystone but it "looks" similar.. only in british 303 caliber.
And I know my rifle, US Model of 1917, is not an Eddystone.
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But like Tango said, who really gives a rip as long as you know what they're talking about
People with a pet peeve?

Seriously, it works both ways.....
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It's all good ..

And for the record? I refer to all my MN rifles as Mosin Nagants and the revolver as Nagant..

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