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Old 01-09-2012, 04:29 AM   #1
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I picked this baby up the other day from one of my local shops i frequent. Im not gonna lie, I thought it was an Enfield .308 convert. Thats how the shop had it labeled too. I thought that was just cool and it was freakin clean. Most of them i have seen look like they where tied to the bumper of a jeep and driven down the same gravel road the entire war, haha. After my own research come to find out its a Ishapore 2a1. never heard of one until now but over all i like it. It has one of the cleanest bores i have ever seen. No problems what so ever. Before everyone says it, i know not to shoot .308 win thru it. Only 7.62 nato. Anyway here are some pics. I took one with the Ishy next to my Polish M44 to show there similar length. I though it was weird that the ishy is carbine length with the style of front end it has. All of the pictures i have seen of them are full rifle length. Ok i am done rambling here are the pics. Feel free to comment or share any info you might have

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I think you forgot the pics...

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sorry i didnt forget my computer is just made out of stone and runs off a couple hamsters running a wheel.

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Dude, that's a pretty sweet rifle.

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Oh i forgot to to mention when i got the rifle it had a .303 mag in it. i took it back and the shop is trying to track one down for me. that is why the mag is missing.

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Nice rifle, real nice sorry to hear about the mag..............

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Ishapore 2A/2A1Main article: Rifle 7.62mm 2A1

Ishapore 2A1.At some point just after the Sino-Indian War of 1962, the Ishapore Rifle Factory in India began producing a new type of rifle known as the Rifle 7.62 mm 2A, which was based on the SMLE Mk III*[72] and was slightly redesigned to use the 7.62 mm NATO round. Externally the new rifle is very similar to the classic Mk III*, with the exception of the front sight protectors and magazine, which is more "square" than the SMLE magazine, and usually carries twelve rounds instead of ten,[73] although a number of 2A1s have been noted with 10-round magazines.

Ishapore 2A and Ishapore 2A1 receivers are made with improved (EN) steel (to handle the increased pressures of the 7.62 mm NATO round)[74] and the extractor is redesigned to suit the rimless cartridge. From 1965–1975 (when production is believed to have been discontinued), the sight ranging graduations were changed from 2000 to 800, and the rifle re-designated Rifle 7.62 mm 2A1.[75] The original 2,000 yards (1,800 m) rear sight arm was found to be suitable for the ballistics of the 7.62x51 NATO which is around 10% more powerful which equates to a flatter trajectory than that of the .303 British MkVII ammunition, so it was a simple matter to think of the '2000' as representing metres rather than yards. It was then decided that the limit of the effective range was a more realistic proposition at 800 m.

The Ishapore 2A and 2A1 rifles are often incorrectly described as ".308 conversions". The 2A/2A1 rifles are not conversions of .303 calibre SMLE Mk III* rifles. Rather, they are newly manufactured firearms and are not technically chambered for commercial .308 Winchester ammunition. However, many 2A/2A1 owners shoot such ammunition in their rifles with no problems, although it should be noted that some factory loaded .308 Winchester cartridges may appear to generate higher pressures than 7.62 mm NATO, even though the rounds are otherwise interchangeable, however this is due to the different systems of pressure measurement used for NATO and commercial cartridges. See the Wikipedia article on the Ishapore 2A1 rifle for further details.

Commercial ammunition tends to run a round 55,000 psi, some lots of military ammunition can run around 60,000 psi. The military brass is heavier than commercial brass.

Numerich Gun Parts
part # 376330
listed under SMLE Ishapore #2

Enfield 308 10Rd Gun Magazine

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Here are my Enfield 7.62 NATO`s........A 2A, 2A1, & sporterized 2A.

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Here are my Enfield 7.62 NATO`s........A 2A, 2A1, & sporterized 2A.
those rifles are nice. i love mine but i cant wait to get my mag so i dont have to one round at a time it.
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Good luck finding that magazine for your Ishy... Only place that I found that had them is sold out: Enfield No 1 Rifle Parts : Buymilsurp.com, Your source for military surplus.

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