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Old 01-31-2013, 09:15 PM   #51
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The last and just about every non refurb Mosin I've seen were Vietnam bring backs worth hundreds of dollars more than any refurbed version.

If you bought it out of a crate at a gun store for and for under $700, I can all but guarantee its a refurb.
The other point is, "if it doesn't have bring-back papers" it is NOT a bring-back. I have two T-53s that do not have import marks, but there is no evidence that they were ever any closer to Vietnam then Bejing.

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If they were "etched" then they were force matched after refurbishment, but since they are stamped then their the original parts.

It is not quite that simple. It appears that most rifles were refurbished with stamped rather than etched numbers. These rifles were refurbished over decades and in an unknown number of locations. Different standards and techniques were used at different times.

Most of the stamped refubs show signs on the bolt, magazine plate and butt-plate, where the old numbers were ground off and restamped. To be an original match, the numbers have to match, but so do the Cryllic characters and the fonts of the characters.

An etched match is just as authentic as a stamped force matched, but most folks would prefer the stamped matched.

Buy Finn made or altered Mosin-Nagant rifles and matching is not an issue at all.......

If you don't care to study the details, and there is nothing wrong with that, just don't spend a lot of money on the rifle, or you mighjt get burned. Or you can forget all of the details and just buy the rifle you like, keep it original, shoot the snot out of it, take proper care of it, and it will increase in value.
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It is not quite that simple. It appears that most rifles were refurbished with stamped rather than etched numbers. These rifles were refurbished over decades and in an unknown number of locations. Different standards and techniques were used at different times.

Most of the stamped refubs show signs on the bolt, magazine plate and butt-plate, where the old numbers were ground off and restamped. To be an original match, the numbers have to match, but so do the Cryllic characters and the fonts of the characters.

An etched match is just as authentic as a stamped force matched, but most folks would prefer the stamped matched.

Buy Finn made or altered Mosin-Nagant rifles and matching is not an issue at all.......

If you don't care to study the details, and there is nothing wrong with that, just don't spend a lot of money on the rifle, or you mighjt get burned. Or you can forget all of the details and just buy the rifle you like, keep it original, shoot the snot out of it, take proper care of it, and it will increase in value.
Well dang! I just leaned something, I didn't know that stamped one without a refurb mark in the stock cause still have been refurbished.
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Someone had to rain on my parade lol
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Well I guess I need to add a Mauser to my list! At the loss of my M1917 sporter
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Picking it up tomorrow here's a picture that the seller sent me

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Unfortunately it's a Mitchell's Mauser... Anything I need to know about the M48? I know about Mitchell's and the lies they advertise but this one doesn't look like its been sanded down and redone
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Unfortunately it's a Mitchell's Mauser... Anything I need to know about the M48? I know about Mitchell's and the lies they advertise but this one doesn't look like its been sanded down and redone
If you just want a shooter it will be fine, Just realize it will never be a collectible..

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Sorry, just seen you said its a M48, I think those are ok.. Its the K98's that are mix-masters. (Ive heard stories of people who ordered a K98, but it had the later M48 receiver)
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If you just want a shooter it will be fine, Just realize it will never be a collectible..

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Sorry, just seen you said its a M48, I think those are ok.. Its the K98's that are mix-masters. (Ive heard stories of people who ordered a K98, but it had the later M48 receiver)
So the M48's aren't mix matched rifles? So they still are the original rifles? It comes with all the accessories and 20 rounds of ammo.
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So the M48's aren't mix matched rifles? So they still are the original rifles? It comes with all the accessories and 20 rounds of ammo.
I dont think they are.. But I could be wrong.. ?
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