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Old 01-29-2013, 12:11 AM   #21
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I swore I would never own an Arisaka, because of who used it. But I'm starting to come around to the fact that a gun is a tool and just that. Can't blame the tool. I probably still wouldnt buy one without the mum though.
I agree, that's probably the last rifle I'd ever want, just listening to eyewitness accounts of the brutality that those savages did to Americans, Chinese, Australians, especially the Koreans and other victims that fell to the harsh hand of the imperial jap soldier, airman, and officer. Just my view of the Japanese.
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I agree, that's probably the last rifle I'd ever want, just listening to eyewitness accounts of the brutality that those savages did to Americans, Chinese, Australians, especially the Koreans and other victims that fell to the harsh hand of the imperial jap soldier, airman, and officer. Just my view of the Japanese.
Then you shouldnt be collecting any mil-surps.... All sides perform brutal acts.
Ive read accounts of US soldiers killing Japanese POW's because they didnt want to fill out the paperwork, that if you shoot a "Jap" in the right spot in the back of the head you could blow out all their gold fillings and pick them up off the ground, or that US soldiers were cutting up dead Japanese and sending body parts home as souvenirs....

Heres a pic that was published in Life magazine, its a decapitated Japanese skull that a GI sent his wife with autographs from his entire platoon..


Oh heres a GI "playing" with a "Jap" skull...


Oh please, the "Japs" were so bad.....
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Why doesnt anybody hate Mausers? I mean the Nazis wanted to exterminate entire races... Im sorry, I just dont understand the Arisaka hatred....

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Why doesnt anybody hate Mausers? I mean the Nazis wanted to exterminate entire races... Im sorry, I just dont understand the Arisaka hatred....
Don't take me wrong, they are one of the strongest military rifles ever. Just Americans didn't go to nearly every dead Japanese soldier they found and cut off their genitals and put them in their mouth for all to see. Also the Rape of Nanking (and all of the Chinese campaign) was is one of the most brutal things done in modern history and probably of all time (short of things like Vlad impaling his enemies alive and putting them along th roads and Nero lighting Christians on fire to use them as human torches to light his parties). I do hold a grudge against the Japanese and the Germans and the Russians in that matter. But Japan takes the prize in brutality for wartime brutality and overall savageness. I'm sorry if I offended you but that's just my person opinion.
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Don't take me wrong, they are one of the strongest military rifles ever. Just Americans didn't go to nearly every dead Japanese soldier they found and cut off their genitals and put them in their mouth for all to see. Also the Rape of Nanking (and all of the Chinese campaign) was is one of the most brutal things done in modern history and probably of all time (short of things like Vlad impaling his enemies alive and putting them along th roads and Nero lighting Christians on fire to use them as human torches to light his parties). I do hold a grudge against the Japanese and the Germans and the Russians in that matter. But Japan takes the prize in brutality for wartime brutality and overall savageness. I'm sorry if I offended you but that's just my person opinion.
So exterminating entire races of civilians is "less" evil?

What about all the "savages" killed by the British? Remember there was a time when "the sun never set on the British empire...

Not offended.. I just dont get it....

In WWI soliders wanted to captured by the Japanese, they were the ones that treated you the best, in fact to this day there are still large "Germantowns" in Japan because the German POW's were treated so well and didnt want to leave..

Nobody seems to look into why they became the way they did.. Its because The League of Nations took Manchuria (Which the Japanese captured from the Russians), and pretty much gave a big "middle finger" to Japan for its help in WWI.

I guess I just realize all sides do horrible things in war, and the gun didnt make them do it....
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So exterminating entire races of civilians is "less" evil?

What about all the "savages" killed by the British? Remember there was a time when "the sun never set on the British empire...

Not offended.. I just dont get it....

In WWI soliders wanted to captured by the Japanese, they were the ones that treated you the best, in fact to this day there are still large "Germantowns" in Japan because the German POW's were treated so well and didnt want to leave..

Nobody seems to look into why they became the way they did.. Its because The League of Nations took Manchuria (Which the Japanese captured from the Russians), and pretty much gave a big "middle finger" to Japan for its help in WWI.

I guess I just realize all sides do horrible things in war, and the gun didnt make them do it....
What the Nazis did and believed in was pure evil, don't get me wrong. But let's just let this whole Japanese thing aside and forget it happened. I was wrong for saying all those thing about the Japanese, and I'm sorry for that. If I offended you then I'm sorry. They are a smart and industrious people but their soldiers during WWII did some very cruel and senseless things, and every other country did atrocities that had no meaning. I know every country did things they aren't proud of. Lets forget this happened and get back to what the thread was put up for in the first place, displaying historical firearms.
Also I respect the Arisaka lineage of rifles, they were proven to be the strongest of all WWII rifles and they proved their worth during the conquests of 1934-1943 and proved itself as a defensive weapon from '44-45.
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Apologies, zaitsev44
Dont apologize, its unnecessary...
I just think its strange the Arisaka is the only military rifle people actually hate with a passion...
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Dont apologize, its unnecessary...
I just think its strange the Arisaka is the only military rifle people actually hate with a passion...
I strongly dislike the SS and Gestapo marked Mausers, knowing that they most likely executed countless numbers of innocent civilians(sorry I'm being hypocritical). You run all those odds with a mil-surp and I just look past that and see the beauty and nostalgia of them but I will drop my Arisaka grudge. They are strong reliable rifles that have proved themselves in the heat of battle. But I have a goal of getting at least 1 rifle or pistol from every major power from WWII. I already have America, England and their Commonwealth, and Russia. Just need Italy (Carcano), France (MAS36), Japan (Arisaka variant), and Germany (Mauser variant). I started my collection last February, and I hope I can accomplish my goal by February 2014.
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But I have a goal of getting at least 1 rifle or pistol from every major power from WWII. I already have America, England and their Commonwealth, and Russia. Just need Italy (Carcano), France (MAS36), Japan (Arisaka variant), and Germany (Mauser variant). I started my collection last February, and I hope I can accomplish my goal by February 2014.
As do I....

Isnt a CZ a Mauser Variant? I didnt see a pic of it?
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