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hq357 11-29-2013 07:59 AM

Right now im seriously thinking about buying a mosin nagant tommorow at my big 5 theyre going cheap i currently dont own any rifles besides a 22. I want a rifle that can effectivley take down big game at about 200 yards. I own a 12 guage shotgun and was wondering if the accuracy of a mosin is about the same as a 12 guage with slugs? What is the effective range of a mosin with iron sights? Should i save my money and buy a better gun instead of wasting money on a mosin? will a slug gun do? I know mosins are cheap bit if i already have a gun that can shoot almost the same as the mosin than id rather save up my money and get a rifle thats is a semi auto

kaido 11-29-2013 10:26 AM

Unless your shot gun is capable for a 3-4" group at 200 yards, I'd stick with getting a Mosin. I haven't owned one myself, but I have put a fair amount of rounds through a friends and I can tell you this, if I wasn't going on a vacation pretty soon, I'd be getting myself one for sure.

As far as iron sights go, that'll depend on the shooter. I've seen guys hit out to 1000 yards with some rifles, not just a Mosin, while other can't hit a barn at 300 yards.

I'm not sure if you do, but if you reload, you could get even better accuracy out of a Mosin then with either mil-surp or factory soft point ammunition.......long story short, for ranged shooting, the Mosin-Nagant wins hands down.

Mercator 11-29-2013 11:49 AM

The only problem with any quality Mosin, you will have to trust the iron sights and yourself. Mounting a scope is a DIY project that is not guaranteed to end well. Also costs extra. Sniper Mosin rifles are way more $$$. A long barrel slug gun is just more practical, but for 200 I'd trust a 30-06 better.

chloeshooter 11-29-2013 12:08 PM

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Answering your specific question, a Mosin with a decent barrel, crown especially, is going to be a better choice out to 200 yards than a slug gun assuming we are talking about open sights vs open sights, or scoped vs scoped. Why? Because 200 yards is pushing the envelope for a sabot slug vs. the ballistics of a 30 caliber (7.62x 54r) round fired from a M-N. The Mosin round itself is formidable to say the least But here's the question: do you know how to properly inspect a cosmoline-caked 75 year old rifle? Would you be able to tell the difference between a damaged crown and one that is in tact? If you look down the barrel with a bore light, do you know what you are looking for? Most likely your first MN is a 'luck if the draw' situation if you are not sure what you are looking for. Actually it is a bit if a luck situation even if you DO know what you are looking for Key point about the Mosin Nagant: the price is right. If you are willing to put time and energy into cleaning it up and sighting it in.....what do you have to lose? You already own the shotgun.........

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Donn 11-29-2013 01:07 PM

I know Mosins are all the rage just now, and for good reason. A big, stable, accurate platform that's reasonably priced and so's the ammo. That said, carrying a Mosin into the field on a hunting trip? I love my M1 Garand, can hit any target I can see, but it's the last rifle I'd take hunting for the same reason, too big & heavy. 357, if your heart's set on a Mosin, by all means, get it. MHO, there are better choices for hunting.

chloeshooter 11-29-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Donn (Post 1444128)
I know Mosins are all the rage just now, and for good reason. A big, stable, accurate platform that's reasonably priced and so's the ammo. That said, carrying a Mosin into the field on a hunting trip? I love my M1 Garand, can hit any target I can see, but it's the last rifle I'd take hunting for the same reason, too big & heavy. 357, if your heart's set on a Mosin, by all means, get it. MHO, there are better choices for hunting.

there are WAY better choices for hunting.....but his question was straight forward enough. if you can't handle carrying the Mosin for a bit in the field.....how are you going to get that dead deer out? :eek:

hiwall 11-29-2013 01:22 PM

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Should i save my money and buy a better gun instead of wasting money on a mosin?
Yes, save a little more money and buy an inexpensive American hunting rifle.

Gatoragn 11-29-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chloeshooter (Post 1444131)
there are WAY better choices for hunting.....but his question was straight forward enough. if you can't handle carrying the Mosin for a bit in the field.....how are you going to get that dead deer out? :eek:

If too far in the woods, wrap the M-N around a tree limb and leave it. :p

sandog 11-29-2013 01:34 PM

Milsurp bolt action rifles are a hoot to shoot, and with only iron sights can be very effective especially at the 200 yard range you specified. After all they dropped a lot of men in combat, and deer and men are similar size. Most where never designed for mounting an optic though, unless they were a sniper version. I've never owned a Mosin Nagant but have shot a few of my friends MN's. I have owned Lee Enfields and Springfields and shot them a lot. By all means get the Mosin if you want it, but I would put in a recommendation for something like the Stevens 200 in 7mm-08, ,308, .270 etc. They go for around $300.Very nice rifle for not much money. You can get them with a scope already mounted or put an excellent inexpensive scope like the Sightron S1 on it, $130-$140.

chloeshooter 11-29-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatoragn (Post 1444140)
If too far in the woods, wrap the M-N around a tree limb and leave it. :p

sounds like you may have read this thread:

Other-Uses-for-Mosin-Nagants



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