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Old 12-02-2013, 04:46 AM   #11
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Today I just bought a bottle of break free clp cleaner lube and protectant all in one im just going to spray it an wipe it down hopefully this will cut through the cosmoline if it dosent then ill just use the hot water method and clean it woth clp after is this a good idea?

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Old 12-02-2013, 04:50 AM   #12
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It will work but hot water melts the Cosmo off faster. Break free is great for light cosmoline.

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There is a wax component to Cosmoline that is not in standard grease.

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No offense, and I also have a nice 91/30, but it would be a

bit of misdirection to the Mosin Nagant noobs out there to

tell them to get a full-size MN, if they are only looking for a

practical shooter, in today's terms. Get a M44. The carbine

is a great beater, and fits in your life.

The original 91/30 is a great collector's item for a serious

military collector, but way too long for everyday usage.

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I don't think ill mind the length, but I agree the m44 would be welcome. Possibly a good truck gun.

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No offense, and I also have a nice 91/30, but it would be a

bit of misdirection to the Mosin Nagant noobs out there to

tell them to get a full-size MN, if they are only looking for a

practical shooter, in today's terms. Get a M44. The carbine

is a great beater, and fits in your life.

The original 91/30 is a great collector's item for a serious

military collector, but way too long for everyday usage.
Is the permanently attached bayonet on the M44 practical for you? Not for me, I'm looking for the M38. I don't plan on bayonet-ting anything lol
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You won't find M44s at quite the bargain prices any more. Same with M38s.

For the length of he 91/30, the balance is actually pretty good. I look at them as fun guns with some collector appeal, not really practical modern riflery.

At the price and quantity of available 91/30s you could decide to forget about collector value and chop the barrel to 20" recrown it and mount an optic if you are more concerned about a having a bargain practical rifle.

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You won't find M44s at quite the bargain prices any more. Same with M38s.

For the length of he 91/30, the balance is actually pretty good. I look at them as fun guns with some collector appeal, not really practical modern riflery.

At the price and quantity of available 91/30s you could decide to forget about collector value and chop the barrel to 20" recrown it and mount an optic if you are more concerned about a having a bargain practical rifle.
agree with you 100%. 75-100 year old milsurps are not modern rifles plain and simple. that said, from an open sight perspective, I can get darn close to Remington 700-like accuracy with them. There are places I hunt that the Mosin is more than enough rifle (woods for example) and there are places I hunt that using the Mosin w/ open sights would be foolish (central Montana). There certainly is no disputing the 7.62 x 54R round.
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First rifle I owned. I payed $90 for mine about 5 years ago. Best $90 I've spent.

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The Mosin Nagants are a lot of fun to shoot. They are an effective deer rifle at close range. But lets be honest with ourselves and our readers. The Remington 770 is more accurate than any milsurp Mosin Nagant, even the sniper rifles. I know for a fact I can shoot a 1" group with any 770 in good condition at 100 yards. The best you can expect out of a milsurp Mosin Nagant is a 6" group at 100 yards. Good enough to kill a deer but not comparable to any modern rifle.

I have seen the picture of the hits in the 3" target supposedly shot at 100 yards. I know for a fact no one can see a 3" target at 100 yards. I have tried to shoot small targets with very accurate rifles at 100 yards when I was younger. I couldn't see the target well enough to hit it every time with iron sights. At the time I had 20/10 vision that had been verified by an optometrist. A hunting guide who was a fine shot in his own right told me I had a bionic eye.

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