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Old 09-01-2013, 02:06 AM   #11
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Jay- please understand I am NOT talking down to you- but the mention of swapping bolts from one rifle to another- do you understand about headspacing on a rifle bolt?
that's a good point as well. would there be a problem with headspacing on a Mosin by swapping the bolts?

i see where C3 is coming from and it does seem to be something that should be considered. headspace on a firearm is very important and i should have thought about it as well.

very good catch C3!
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Old 09-01-2013, 02:10 AM   #12
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Yes I do and if the bolt was to be switched from rifle to rifle the head space is a major issue. I don't Recommend anyone change a rifle bolt and shoot it without checking headspace. Now lets say I have a normal mosin rifle and I took the newly made bolt and placed the Russian made bolt head on the newly made bolt would that correct the headspace?

I also want to state that for this project I appreciate the criticism, it will only lead to a better product.

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Sounds like a great idea.

I think we all are waiting for a price, here.

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Jay- no-it would not. You have to look at everything from the lockup point on the bolt to the face of the bolt, as any difference in length will affect headspace. One of the reason for serially numbered bolts was to keep THE bolt with THE rifle.

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Like I said I want it as inexpensive as can be. I just realized that it would be best to sell just the bolt body. the spring, firing pin, and bolt head would be supplied from the rifle the new bolt would be going on. I would have the whole bolt assembly for sale as a option

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Jay- no-it would not. You have to look at everything from the lockup point on the bolt to the face of the bolt, as any difference in length will affect headspace. One of the reason for serially numbered bolts was to keep THE bolt with THE rifle.
Ok, I will look into some options I have to fix the headspace issue. If someone was to purchase it and the headspace was unsafe I would gladly issue a full refund
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Okay I believe I have come up with a solution.. I will measure the headspace of say 20 mosin nagants and come up with an average headspace measurement and manufacture the bolt with that measurement this way there is a good chance the bolt headspace will be safe and if for some reason it isn't I will refund the purchase. Does that make sense?

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Do you intend to refund a damaged face and missing eyes?

Not saying you have a bad idea at all. But I think you need to refine it a little. Do a little more research and really brainstorm this.

Think there may be a way to build one with a readily field adjustable head space? You would be well placed to also sell head space gauges.

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The bolt body is a different part than the bolt. Swapping handles will not effect head space so long as the same bolt head is kept with its matching chamber.

Check my writeup on detailed mosin bolt assembly dissassembly.
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f37/mosin-91-30-bolt-dissassembly-reassembly-59340/

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The bolt body is a different part than the bolt. Swapping handles will not effect head space so long as the same bolt head is kept with its matching chamber.

Check my writeup on detailed mosin bolt assembly dissassembly.
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f37/mosin-91-30-bolt-dissassembly-reassembly-59340/
That is exactly what I thought because the bolt head has the locking lugs that would ultimately effect headspace. I have a meeting set with a gunsmith and I will have a answer to this headspace issue.

Please keep in mind I would never sell anything unless I was 100% sure the product was safe.
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