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Old 03-20-2012, 03:42 AM   #11
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cant go wrong w/any $100 rifle

i've reloaded a few rds. for this cal. & its a puzzycat when loaded a lil on the soft side but those mil-surplus rds are just NASTY!!!

these rifles want be around as long as the mosins...grab one while you can...& WTHeck do you mean by(federal laws in Texas)OMG!! we are all DOOMED!!!

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cant go wrong w/any $100 rifle

i've reloaded a few rds. for this cal. & its a puzzycat when loaded a lil on the soft side but those mil-surplus rds are just NASTY!!!

these rifles want be around as long as the mosins...grab one while you can...& WTHeck do you mean by(federal laws in Texas)OMG!! we are all DOOMED!!!
LOL yeah,

Yep, the federal laws suck. They say I can't buy a hand gun from a store, but state laws says I can buy one through a private sell, or have it gifted to me. Basically, it is a PITA!
I never really understood that law. I CAN go out and buy an AK-47 with a drum magazine, but I CAN'T buy a pistol, not even a .22. How does that make sense? (and no, I am not complaining about being able to buy an AK )
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LOL yeah,

Yep, the federal laws suck. They say I can't buy a hand gun from a store, but state laws says I can buy one through a private sell, or have it gifted to me. Basically, it is a PITA!
I never really understood that law. I CAN go out and buy an AK-47 with a drum magazine, but I CAN'T buy a pistol, not even a .22. How does that make sense? (and no, I am not complaining about being able to buy an AK )
Are you under 21 ?
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I'll be 20 in August. Just one more year.
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prolly some physicsy sciency explanation but i have no idea why
Newton said it best, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. MV = MV (mass times velocity equals mass times velocity)

The principle factors that must be considered to calculate recoil are bullet weight (mass), bullet velocity, powder charge, and rifle weight (mass). The mass times the velocity of everything ejected from the muzzle of a rifle (principally the bullet and powder gasses) will be equaled by the mass times the velocity of the recoiling rifle.

Kick (Recoil) is generally expressed in foot-pounds of energy. Recoil over 20 ft. lbs. will cause the average shooter to flinch. About 15 ft. lbs. is the threshold of an average shooter's comfort level.

Rifle mass (weight) is a contributing factor of the recoil delivered to the shooter. Here are some examples:

  • .300 WSM (180 grain, MV 2950 fps), 6.5 lb. rifle = 30.8 ft. lbs.
  • .300 WSM (180 grain, MV 2950 fps), 8.5 lb. rifle = 23.6 ft. lbs.
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  • .45-70 (300 grain, MV 1900 fps), 7.0 lb. rifle = 26.6 ft. lbs.
  • .45-70 (300 grain, MV 1900 fps), 8.5 lb. rifle = 21.9 ft. lbs.

Not sure what the M95 you're looking at is chambered in? (8x50R, 8x56R or even the 7.92x57 Mauser) But it doesn't matter, I could not find recoil data on any of them.

If you have the info, plug it in;

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Wow i didnt think that little bit of change in weight would have such a large effect in pounds of recoil!!

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Wow i didnt think that little bit of change in weight would have such a large effect in pounds of recoil!!
That's why I never put much weight (no pun intended) in a statement like "all 45-70's have too much kick."

This gun weight variable would be conspicuous if you compared shooting my daughter's LCP with Wind's new P238. I'm sure the difference would be remarkable.
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Cane, you just made that sound simple. Thanks, I'll have to remember that.

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Stock and grip design play a big part in "felt" recoil. A poorly fitted stock or grip will increase the felt recoil because it does not distribute the recoil force properly.

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That's why I never put much weight (no pun intended) in a statement like "all 45-70's have too much kick."

This gun weight variable would be conspicuous if you compared shooting my daughter's LCP with Wind's new P238. I'm sure the difference would be remarkable.
i know the difference in gun size makes a diff in felt recoil i just didnt think it was radical like that. i guess im going to order some of those handguard weights from rra for my national match rifle. that rifle shouldnt move at al lol
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