M59/66A1 ques...
Firearm & Gun Forum - FireArmsTalk.com > General Firearms Forums > Curio & Relic Discussion > M59/66A1 ques...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-22-2008, 07:11 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
supergus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 548
Default M59/66A1 ques...

I just bought a Yugoslovian SKS at a gun show and I had a ques. I know that all the components are matching #'s and the same # is on the stock. It's obvious the components are new but here's my question: would the bolt/receiver etc. be brand new or N.O.S. surplus? is Zastava still making these parts and then stamping the old wooden stock with the same part # as the other parts? Would a gun like this be worth more than an original or less?
This might be the deciding factor of whether or not I shoot it.

__________________
supergus is offline  
 
Reply With Quote

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today - It's Free!

Are you a firearms enthusiast? Then we hope you will join the community. You will gain access to post, create threads, private message, upload images, join groups and more.

Firearms Talk is owned and operated by fellow firearms enthusiasts. We strive to offer a non-commercial community to learn and share information.

Join FirearmsTalk.com Today! - Click Here


Old 06-22-2008, 07:40 PM   #2
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
RL357Mag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Albany,New York
Posts: 3,251
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by supergus View Post
I just bought a Yugoslovian SKS at a gun show and I had a ques. I know that all the components are matching #'s and the same # is on the stock. It's obvious the components are new but here's my question: would the bolt/receiver etc. be brand new or N.O.S. surplus? is Zastava still making these parts and then stamping the old wooden stock with the same part # as the other parts? Would a gun like this be worth more than an original or less?
This might be the deciding factor of whether or not I shoot it.

I bought a Yugo 59/66 and all the numbers matched because it was unissued and came packed in grease. In fact, it took me almost 2 hours to clean it up before I could shoot it. I paid $239. I can't answer your question about the bolt/stock without seeing the gun, but I would assume that yours is all original if the numbers match, and even if they don't they are probably new. As far as price and collectibility anytime you have a gun with matching numbers it is worth more than the same gun with non-matching numbers. I don't consider the SKS to have any collectors value. They are fun and cheapp to shoot and would make good mid-ranger hunting guns. Even the milled Yugo's are cheaply made guns that sell for well under the cost of almost any other milsurp gun, and are less accurate, with the exception of an AK, which is much less accurate.
__________________
Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians
"The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved"
If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body - USMC
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"

Last edited by RL357Mag; 06-22-2008 at 07:43 PM.
RL357Mag is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2008, 11:43 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
supergus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 548
Default

I bought mine at a gun show and all the components were slathered in grease too. (not the stock though) Should I assume that this is an unissued surplus? Or if it was rebuilt using surplus parts would it still be covered with grease? Maybe I'm just reading too much into this. But I just like to know the history of my antiques(cars, furniture, guns). I guess for $280 I should just clean it and shoot it!

__________________
supergus is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 12:11 AM   #4
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
RL357Mag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Albany,New York
Posts: 3,251
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by supergus View Post
I bought mine at a gun show and all the components were slathered in grease too. (not the stock though) Should I assume that this is an unissued surplus? Or if it was rebuilt using surplus parts would it still be covered with grease? Maybe I'm just reading too much into this. But I just like to know the history of my antiques(cars, furniture, guns). I guess for $280 I should just clean it and shoot it!

$280 is a lot for a Yugo, so I'm assuming it is new, unissued, or at worst it was armory refinished. In either case it's the best SKS you can buy, and should be a good shooter. Good luck with it!
__________________
Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians
"The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved"
If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body - USMC
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"

Last edited by RL357Mag; 06-23-2008 at 02:34 PM.
RL357Mag is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 01:19 AM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
RL357Mag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Albany,New York
Posts: 3,251
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by supergus View Post
I bought mine at a gun show and all the components were slathered in grease too. (not the stock though) Should I assume that this is an unissued surplus? Or if it was rebuilt using surplus parts would it still be covered with grease? Maybe I'm just reading too much into this. But I just like to know the history of my antiques(cars, furniture, guns). I guess for $280 I should just clean it and shoot it!
It sounds like an unissued rifle to me - just like the one I got. Of course they could have been arsenal refinished and put in storage, but I doubt it since they quickly became obsolete weapons. Just enjoy it and shoot it! They are fun and cheap to shoot.
__________________
Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians
"The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved"
If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body - USMC
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"
RL357Mag is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 03:00 AM   #6
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 427
Default

Over the past 45 years the arsenal has repeatedly taken these rifles out of storage, cleaned them up, shot them, and made any necessary repairs. This is why it's impossible to get an unfired SKS.

Arsenal repairs are considered to be original rifles; personally, I'd be much more suspicious about what Century International might have done with some of these imports before they put them out on the market. What you got ain't nothing special; so, feel free, go ahead and shoot it.

You do know the protocol - right? Thoroughly clean all the grease off the gun. Pay particular attention to the bolt assembly - Which should be, ideally, disassembled for cleaning. Failing this, soak it overnight in white kerosene.

The first time you fire that, 'new' SKS, single load the rounds. Then double load and fire with a very firm grip on the rifle. If all goes well for the first dozen, or so, rounds then you can start triple loading and firing - All with a very firm grip on the rifle.

(Because gummed-up SKS rifles have a nasty habit of suddenly going full auto on ya!)

Lots of luck getting all that Cosmolene off. I use automotive engine degreaser, white kerosene, and lots and lots of paper towels. Use a straightened paper clip to clean out the gas port. It's summertime, now, so placing the disassembled stock, wrapped in paper towels, inside a black garbage bag and leaving it out in the sun will help leech out a lot of residual Cosmolene that has previously soaked into the wood.

__________________

Last edited by G21.45; 06-23-2008 at 03:02 AM.
G21.45 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-23-2008, 02:35 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
RL357Mag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Albany,New York
Posts: 3,251
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

I'll have to try the garbage bag trick!

__________________
Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians
"The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved"
If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body - USMC
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"
RL357Mag is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2008, 02:19 AM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 573
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

just take the stock off and run it thru the dishwasher, works like a charm

__________________
Righteous is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2008, 12:47 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
RL357Mag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Albany,New York
Posts: 3,251
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Righteous View Post
just take the stock off and run it thru the dishwasher, works like a charm
And then dry it with a pair of the wife's panties?
__________________
Guns Have Only Two Enemies-Rust and Politicians
"The United States Constitution (c) 1791 - All Rights Reserved"
If Guns Kill, Do Pencils Mis-spell Words?
Pain is Weakness Leaving the Body - USMC
"Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum"
RL357Mag is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2008, 08:51 PM   #10
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ScottG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,614
Liked 9 Times on 3 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RL357Mag View Post
And then dry it with a pair of the wife's panties?
Why not? She'll already be mad at you.....
__________________

9x18=Makarov

ScottG is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes