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Old 03-05-2017, 04:58 AM   #1
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Picked up an Iver Johnson .22 "supershot", top break 7 shot revolver at the gun show last weekend.

Seller said it was late 20s early 30s, serial number is only 4 digits and begins with a 6. Is there a way to check the date of manufacture to see how old it really is?

It locks up pretty tight, and shoots fairly well, but has maybe the worst sights I have ever seen. I think it has been reblued at sometime in the recent past.

I paid $250 for it, I really don't know if that was too much, or a good deal. I have wanted a top break .22 revolver for a very long time so I bought it.

So how old is it really, and did I get screwed on the price?
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Old 03-05-2017, 05:10 AM   #2
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I have a copy of the late Mr. William Goforth's book on Iver Johnsons. I will look up the date of manufacture for you.

Tomorrow.

I just looked, and my little Tom is curled up asleep on top of it. If I wake him up, he will think that means it is play time.

That went into production in 1928, THINK yours is second year production. IIRC, your's will not have a rebated cylinder. If so, stick with standard velocity ammo.
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Iver Johnson and H&R top breaks hardly ever exceed $150.00, when found in shops or shows, in my area. That matters not a whit if you wanted the piece and are happy with it. I have some of them in .32 and .38 S&W and I enjoy owning and shooting them. I have not seen one in .22, but if I do, I might have to have it. Congrats!
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1929, production ended at sn K6400. Picked up in 1930 at sn K6501. About 1931 they dropped the 7 shot version. Total production of the 7 shooters was 10,200.
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The Iver Johnson name is back up and running but nothing on pre 2005. Their mainstay is the 1911. They have some accessories for M1 Carbines and a few older magazines. They are importing shotguns from Turkey. They introduced a US made 4 barrel 22lr Deringer. Looks like they are slowly expanding their line. A modern version of some of the old top breaks would be interesting. A decent M1 Carbine would be nice too.
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1929, production ended at sn K6400. Picked up in 1930 at sn K6501. About 1931 they dropped the 7 shot version. Total production of the 7 shooters was 10,200.
Makes it 1929, thanks a lot for the info I appreciate it.

It seems to be a decent shooter, but I haven't had a chance to give it good tryout yet.
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I have a slab sided later version of your revolver- in LNIB condition. I paid WELL north of $150 for that one. The Sealed and Supershots in .22 are not in the same price range as the small frame 'Owl's Head" 32s.
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Iver Johnson and H&R top breaks hardly ever exceed $150.00, when found in shops or shows, in my area. That matters not a whit if you wanted the piece and are happy with it. I have some of them in .32 and .38 S&W and I enjoy owning and shooting them. I have not seen one in .22, but if I do, I might have to have it. Congrats!
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I have a slab sided later version of your revolver- in LNIB condition. I paid WELL north of $150 for that one. The Sealed and Supershots in .22 are not in the same price range as the small frame 'Owl's Head" 32s.
Chain, what part of these here United States do you hail from? Around here
(Ne Ohio) top breaks seem to be much rarer, I haven't seen one at the last 5 or 6 gun shows, and can't remember ever seeing one in a gun store. I have wanted a H & R 10 shot since I shot my uncles as kid, sentimental reasons only it really wasn't superior to any other gun I have shot. I haven't seen one at a gun show in a long time, the Iver Johnson I just bought is the closest I have seen.

I got it on the cleaning bench under a good light this weekend, I think maybe I might have paid a little bit too much for it from a strictly economic point of view. It appears to have been reblued at some point and there is some small pitting under the reblue job.

But I like it, it is not nice enough that I am scared to shoot it, and the good Lord knows I have spent more than this pistol cost me on a wild weekend during my youth!!

Thanks again to all you guys for the info you were able to give me.

By the way does it being made in 1929 qualify as a C&R?
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A Curio & Relic Firearms is defined as a specific firearm being 50 years or more old and in the original configuration, OR being on a list published by the BATF.

It is still a firearm under Federal law. But yes, your Iver is a C&R firearm.
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Pawn shop IJ. 2nd model safety hammerless, 38 S&wW. Love it!
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