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 02-17-2011, 02:44 PM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 506 |  How to ship?
I have an 1892 Lebel revolver made in 1901. Can any one tell me how to ship it. "legally" __________________
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| 02-17-2011, 06:52 PM | #2 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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Am not a lawyer, so my legal advice is priceless.
A firearm made after 1898 is a firearm- before that, an antique. (muzzleloaders excepted)
A firearm that is having ownership transferred across a state line must be shipped TO a Federal Firearms license holder (dealer or collector). Exception for an inherited firearm, which the Executor of the estate is permiited to ship to the person it was bequeathed to.
Actual shipping- you may NOT mail a handgun unless you are a licensed firearms dealer or manufacturer. You CAN mail rifles and shotguns thru the US mail.
You CAN ship by UPS or FedEx. THEY (not law, their rules) require that it be shipped next day Air, and it must go adult sig required. You will need to take it to a hub, not a UPS store. This is going to run you AROUND $75. You MAY be better off to find a dealer, and pay him to MAIL it for you- flat rate priority mail box. Depending on what he charges for his services. __________________
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| 02-17-2011, 07:13 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 506 |
Thanks C3, I think this will probably discourage the buyer. The pistol is selling for $160 + my Dealer + Postage + His Dealer. __________________
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| 02-17-2011, 09:48 PM | #4 | Iron Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South central, NH Posts: 3,262 Likes Given: 2
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You are over thinking this. You can ship the handgun as long as an FFL license accompines it. It could be a signed copy of his dealers license. You may also want to check the ATF rules. __________________
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| 02-17-2011, 11:18 PM | #5 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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JP- you are correct- he does not need a FFL to SEND a handgun by common carrier it (unless going into NY State- state law there) But he needs a FFL to MAIL a handgun. When MAILING a handgun, there is a Form 1508 that you complete, under penalty of perjury, attesting that you are a Dealer or Manufacturer. Domestic Mail Manual, Chapter 14, Restricted Mailings. Shipping by common carrier is 18 US Code, section 922. __________________
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| 02-18-2011, 12:18 AM | #6 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Olathe, JOCO KS Posts: 1,358 |
A handgun does not need to be shipped by or from an ffl, nor do it need to be accompanied by a copy if their license.
That's typically a requirement by FFL consignee.
You do not need to ship handguns priority overnight/nextday.
Any handgun that shoots a modern cartridge, must be shipped to a license holder. Any modern rifle may be shipped resident to resident, as long as they reside in the same state. Anything crossing state lines must go to a dealer. __________________
I could make a list of a bunch of guns i have, or "have", or wish I had. Why would one feel compelled to provide that infornation freely? Do you feel the need to show off? Is it some immature game of oneupsmanship?
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| 02-18-2011, 05:36 AM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 506 |
Ships in the morn Fed-X $12. 3 days ground. I took the receiving FFL to them and they didnt care to see it. Fed X ground. They gave me packaging. No problem. All the formalities were unimportant to them. I could have shipped to Mohammed himself. Almost too easy. __________________
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| 02-18-2011, 01:07 PM | #8 | Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Third bunker on the right, Central Virginia Posts: 8,374 Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts
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You're right- that was too easy.
Also contrary to their published tarrifs.
FedEx Firearm Shipping Regulations -__________________
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| 02-18-2011, 03:58 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 506 |
I explained to the Fed-X Rep that I wanted to ship within the bounds of the law. #5 on their rules says Fed-X will not accept handguns for ground shipment. They did. I asked if it needed to be sent next day air or overnight the rep said it wasn't necessary. Crap!! __________________
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| 02-24-2011, 04:05 PM | #10 | Supporting Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 816 |
I recently shipped a handgun for a friend of mine who had already recieved the FFL from the buyer. I showed a copy of my FFL to the postman and it shipped out for less than 15 bucks. It does not have to go next day through the postal service. UPS had charged that same fella close to $70 the week before. I will ship everything USPS from now on. __________________
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