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Popgun 09-27-2012 02:44 AM

Can anyone identify this gun and it's caliber
 
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I picked this old gun up years ago and just kept it because it's the same type rifle that my grandfather carried when he was in the Italian army back in 1912/1913. I remember showing it to him years ago (he would be 122 years old now) and he said that it was the same one except that his was a shorter carbine model as he was in an artillery regiment. It has the word "Terni" stamped on one side with "WW" stamped on top.

Does anybody know what caliber this is and also I was wondering if ammo was still available as special order for a gun like this. Any bits of history would also be appreciated.

Thanks

Popgun 09-27-2012 02:48 AM

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thought I'd add a couple more photos

Popgun 09-27-2012 02:51 AM

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... and a couple more can't hurt

303tom 09-27-2012 03:10 AM

That is I believe is a Italian Vetterli Model 1870/87/16, in 6.5x52, looks like a nice one..............

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/274060/prvi-partizan-ammunition-65x52mm-mannlicher-carcano-139-grain-full-metal-jacket-boat-tail-box-of-20

Popgun 09-27-2012 04:32 AM

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I was wondering if these guns used ammo clips like the M1 or magazines inserted from the bottom? I guess it could be used single shot, assuming it checks out as safe to fire. Would be nice to have all the missing pieces, though, including bayonet, shoulder strap, and whatever held the ammo in the magazine area. Would also be nice to be able to shoot it at least once in honor of my grandfather.

Popgun 09-27-2012 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 303tom (Post 956029)
That is I believe is a Italian Vetterli Model 1870/87/16, in 6.5x52, looks like a nice one..............

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/274060/prvi-partizan-ammunition-65x52mm-mannlicher-carcano-139-grain-full-metal-jacket-boat-tail-box-of-20

BTW, thanks for the response.

303tom 09-27-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Popgun (Post 956112)
I was wondering if these guns used ammo clips like the M1 or magazines inserted from the bottom? I guess it could be used single shot, assuming it checks out as safe to fire. Would be nice to have all the missing pieces, though, including bayonet, shoulder strap, and whatever held the ammo in the magazine area. Would also be nice to be able to shoot it at least once in honor of my grandfather.

Kind of like a M1 Garand, yes they use a Enbloc, in from the top, but out through the bottom............

towboater 09-27-2012 01:07 PM

http://www.gunsmagazine.com/web-blast-italys-mannlicher-carcano/

towboater 09-27-2012 01:09 PM

Void ........

303tom 09-27-2012 01:15 PM

Could not find video of loading & cycling of a Vetterli, so here is a carcano, works the same way.



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