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Woody 07-20-2011 12:53 AM

Bound Book
 
How soon do I need to start my Bound Book? Now or when I make my first purchase? Ive already recived my C&R. Also do C&R's I already own previously like my Norinco 213 have to be listed in this book? From what I am reading this book is a record of any acquisitions and dispositions after reciving my license.
If so then
If I would sell my Norinco 213 would it be recoreded as a disposition even though I owned it before getting a C&R
(muddy waters for me still)
And lastly must the book be bound or can it be loose leaf or electronic and if it must be bound can it be any type of generic log book from office depot or is it a special type of book you must purchase

cddbrowns 07-20-2011 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Woody (Post 545865)
How soon do I need to start my Bound Book? Now or when I make my first purchase? Ive already recived my C&R. Also do C&R's I already own previously like my Norinco 213 have to be listed in this book? From what I am reading this book is a record of any acquisitions and dispositions after reciving my license.
If so then
If I would sell my Norinco 213 would it be recoreded as a disposition even though I owned it before getting a C&R
(muddy waters for me still)
And lastly must the book be bound or can it be loose leaf or electronic and if it must be bound can it be any type of generic log book from office depot or is it a special type of book you must purchase

I, like most I would assume, keep the book no matter what. I dont have a C&R yet, but when I do, every firearm I have will be documented and kept record of. Just my opinion.

opaww 07-20-2011 01:12 AM

I would say to contact BATF for the answers you are seeking, I know some don't trust them but they most times are will to help answer them tough questions

ScottG 07-21-2011 05:43 AM

Woody, you only need to keep records of firearms you purchase using your C&R license. It doesn't matter if the gun is on the list, only that you used your 03 to purchase it. Then when you dispose of that item, you need to post that in your bound book. There is no "bound book" that must be purchased from any agency or other person. All you need is to keep the information you are required to keep. Just create your own using your favorite spreadsheet application and print it out. You need to have a paper copy, but you only need to show it if they ask you. I keep mine on the computer and can print it out if I need to. No one has ever asked to see mine. I have all the information in a folder so if the computer crashes I can make a bound book by hand. No need to overthink it, or let it make your hair gray. That's what kids are for..... :D

Woody 07-21-2011 03:07 PM

Gotcha
Thanx

Poink88 07-21-2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottG (Post 546920)
Woody, you only need to keep records of firearms you purchase using your C&R license. It doesn't matter if the gun is on the list, only that you used your 03 to purchase it. Then when you dispose of that item, you need to post that in your bound book. There is no "bound book" that must be purchased from any agency or other person. All you need is to keep the information you are required to keep. Just create your own using your favorite spreadsheet application and print it out. You need to have a paper copy, but you only need to show it if they ask you. I keep mine on the computer and can print it out if I need to. No one has ever asked to see mine. I have all the information in a folder so if the computer crashes I can make a bound book by hand. No need to overthink it, or let it make your hair gray. That's what kids are for..... :D

Please verify this with BATF.

In my work, our inspectors are required to use bound notebook to log their dailies since it will show if any page is removed or tampered with. It holds much more credibility in court than loose sheets of paper. Whether the same applies to your C&R, I am not sure.

TheOldMan 07-21-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Poink88 (Post 547103)
Please verify this with BATF.

In my work, our inspectors are required to use bound notebook to log their dailies since it will show if any page is removed or tampered with. It holds much more credibility in court than loose sheets of paper. Whether the same applies to your C&R, I am not sure.

Very good advice .. I have had my 03 C&R for over 12 years now and have always used the BATF "approved" version of the records keeping bound book. You get this from the BATF for free so why not use it to keep yourself legal all around. Brownells sells something very similar. The BATF also has a computerized version you can download or get for free.

My advice, use the right book and keep good solid records.

Orlando 07-24-2011 01:19 AM

I have had my license for years and am still amazed of the license holders that dont know the answers to the most basic questions.
I suggest you read the packet that was sent before you received you license.
#1 C&R firearms that you owned before you got your license and not logged in. Thet are logged out if you were to sell them.
#2 All C&R firearms are to be logged in if they were purchased while you had your license even if you did not use your license to obtain them.
#3 You do not have to use a bound book. Loose leaf binder etc is fine

Woody 07-24-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Orlando
I have had my license for years and am still amazed of the license holders that dont know the answers to the most basic questions.
I suggest you read the packet that was sent before you received you license.
#1 C&R firearms that you owned before you got your license and not logged in. Thet are logged out if you were to sell them.
#2 All C&R firearms are to be logged in if they were purchased while you had your license even if you did not use your license to obtain them.
#3 You do not have to use a bound book. Loose leaf binder etc is fine

Orlando
I've had my license a few weeks and I'm still amazed at how some think that since they know the answers to basic questions they are experts
Thanx for the answers but you can keep the attitude

Orlando 07-24-2011 01:42 AM

Woody
I give you no attitude
Have you even opened your packet and looked for answers?
Are you relying on what someone on the internet tells you??
My suggestion is to read , its you butt if you take someones wrong advice.
You will always have some questions and may need to ask but what you are asking are very basic
If you dont take the time to research answers yourself you shouldnt have the license.
Sorry but thats my opinion, good luck


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