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Old 08-06-2012, 10:34 PM   #41
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JMHO, but for rifle quality, optics, and ammo, I would have thought the

Mauser,(which Springfield paid royalties to for copyright infringements)

with a good German scope.

Now, as to which rifle killed more enemies, in it's capacity

as a sniper rifle,
- the Mosin Nagant.

But the word "best" is somewhat arbitrary, and undefined.

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Old 08-08-2012, 05:35 AM   #42
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My vote would be for the Enfield No4 Mk1T followed by the K98k LSR. The Springfield though an accurate rifle was held back by the rimfire optic it was issued with. I thing the Mosin was successful only because of the huge numbers that were deployed.

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My vote would be for the Enfield No4 Mk1T followed by the K98k LSR. The Springfield though an accurate rifle was held back by the rimfire optic it was issued with. I thing the Mosin was successful only because of the huge numbers that were deployed.
Not sure how the long side rail is better as there is still flex compared w/ the low or high turret mounts. There is a very small pin that lock any side rail mount. That was there weak spot. BTW, the difference between a low turret and high turret is less then 1/8" in height. Claw mounts, single and double are awesome, but were expensive to produce. Think about it, Germans had single claw, double claw, SSR, LSR, Low Turret, High Turret, and used captured PEM side mounts. The Germans made all the advancements we still see today.
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Just found this thread and joined the forum so I could reply...

Seems like I've read through dozens of threads about the Best Sniper Rifle of WW2, and it always surprises me how little respect there is for the M-1 Garand. Yes, I know, it ain't a bolt action, it ain't european, etc. Well, set aside conventional wisdom for a moment and consider the opinions of the snipers who actually used them.

The attached article is based on interviews of snipers from the U.S. 79 Infantry Division in early 1945, and appeared in the Division's newspaper during June of that year. Says it all, IMO (except for the comment about the carbine).

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Just found this thread and joined the forum so I could reply...

Seems like I've read through dozens of threads about the Best Sniper Rifle of WW2, and it always surprises me how little respect there is for the M-1 Garand. Yes, I know, it ain't a bolt action, it ain't european, etc. Well, set aside conventional wisdom for a moment and consider the opinions of the snipers who actually used them.

The attached article is based on interviews of snipers from the U.S. 79 Infantry Division in early 1945, and appeared in the Division's newspaper during June of that year. Says it all, IMO (except for the comment about the carbine).
The problem w/ the link is that was only looked at from one perspective. Now the M1 Garand was a force to be recond with in Korea, after optics had improve in the U.S.
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During WW1 the British were actually interested in purchasing telescopic sights from the Germans in exchange for rubber for the Germans so that the Germans could put tyres on their field guns and transport vehicles but after some very careful consideration the British decided that it wouldn't be real smart to let British rubber used on German field pieces be used to help kill their own troops so the deal that was going to be done through another country was scrapped,regards

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The Mosin-Nagant series probably put more Germans (and Russians) to bed than any other, because so many were deployed. As far as quality, the Springfield was far better and I also believe the .06 was better than the X54.

And this from a Mosin-Nagant certified nut.

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I would have to say the nagant is far superior. i own both a springfeild and nagant that were both used as sniper rifles in ww11. the answer to why the nagant is superior is simple. the nagants that were issued as snipers were diferent the were the best nagants and most acurate easly as acurate as the springfeild. and with that long barrel it could easly be accurate at a thousand yards. giving it the reach and acuracy at distance that the springfeild couldn't match. so even though the springfeild was supperior as a rifle when matched up against those nagants designated for sniper use they are no match.

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I would have to say the nagant is far superior. i own both a springfeild and nagant that were both used as sniper rifles in ww11. the answer to why the nagant is superior is simple. the nagants that were issued as snipers were diferent the were the best nagants and most acurate easly as acurate as the springfeild. and with that long barrel it could easly be accurate at a thousand yards. giving it the reach and acuracy at distance that the springfeild couldn't match. so even though the springfeild was supperior as a rifle when matched up against those nagants designated for sniper use they are no match.
Really...............
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Really...............
Oh, yeah, for one thing, the Springfield, through the WWII timeframe hadn't

been formally matched to a really good, dependable scope, for use in

mass numbers.

Compare a standard '03 to a standard 91/30, with iron sights, yes, the

Springfield comes out on top.

But if you remain in the period questioned, before the A304, (which still

had a crappy scope) the specific Mosin sniper rifle selection process,

and combination of bolt and well-made, if simple scope, made it a

better choice, IMO, as a premier sniper rifle of WWII...

Don't believe the cold-war "all things Russian are bad" dogma they

spoon-fed you in school. If Russia's army and weather hadn't consumed

75 entire Nazi Divisions, we could have lost WWII.
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