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Old 01-06-2014, 10:36 PM   #11
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What makes the 1903 better than the contemporary Enfield, in your opinion? Open question. I probably would go with the Springer just to save on ammo. Thoughts?
I dont know about better but ive just always wanted one since i was little i guess for me a history thing the doe boys back in ww1 and the marines in ww2 heck even korea and some in vietnam. Im just a big history guy. Ive been wanting an enfield to just havent gotten around to it.
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What makes the 1903 better than the contemporary Enfield, in your opinion? Open question. I probably would go with the Springer just to save on ammo. Thoughts?
Brit MK1 , No4, M1914, or M1917?? The M1917 is an Enfield design. It is far superior to the 1903. My Dad carried the '03 in the Pacific and hated it. Started out as a BAR man, when he was promoted the handed him an '03. WWI rifles did not fare well in the jungle.
He is center back. Bougainville 1943.
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Brit MK1 , No4, M1914, or M1917?? The M1917 is an Enfield design. It is far superior to the 1903. My Dad carried the '03 in the Pacific and hated it. Started out as a BAR man, when he was promoted the handed him an '03. WWI rifles did not fare well in the jungle.
He is center back. Bougainville 1943.
I am familiar with Mark I. Never studied the Enfields, but always saw them favorably compared to the Mosin and the Mauser. The spring lôaded bolt action had to be the fastest ever. The reason I never bought one, it would be a safe queen after 2-3 boxes at $1+ a pop. Great picture, a real treasure.
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Jpattersonn, Yes when you just say Enfield? The P-14 was chambered in a poor cartridge. The P-17 was plagued by metallurgy problems during WWI. The P-17 was notorious for cracking receiver rings. Old WWI veterans right or wrong claimed more "Dough Boys" were blinded by P-17 rifles than by the Germans.
Over the years many P-17 rifles were converted to magnums. It is a known fact these receivers should be checked for hair line fractures. The Remington Mdl. 30 was a result of the old War Horse.
JPat, have you ever considered how the American sporting cartridges would have evolved? The 7X51 Pedersen would have replaced the "06". The .257 Roberts would have been 6MMs too short?

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Ok here is my Eddystone Remington Pattern 14 Enfield. I'm not sure about what looks like swiss crosses, one on the right of the butt stock and one on the right forearm. Guess I should research that sometime. I know its not an American mil surp but it was the pattern for the Model of 1917.

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And here is the Pattern 14's American twin the Model of 1917 Remington.

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Maltese cross stamp was meant "For Emergency Use Only" according to the stratton book

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Ok thank. I have Stratton's books Volume 1 and 2 but they don't cover the P 14. Not sure what "For Emergency Use Only" means.

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its abbreviated but it basically means for emergency use only use ball ammo. Basically these rifles were given to the home guard or sent to India because they were not upgraded

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its abbreviated but it basically means for emergency use only use ball ammo. Basically these rifles were given to the home guard or sent to India because they were not upgraded
Ok thanks for the info. thats interesting.
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