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Old 11-11-2014, 02:57 AM   #1
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I have been searching for a way to make the safety on my 91/30 a little more user friendly. I tore the bolt down and cleaned it Safariland CLP like I usually do. Then I degreased the entire assembly. I lubricated the bolt with CRC spray on white lithium grease. Assembled the bolt. Then slid the bolt in the receiver. I did nothing more or less.

I can actually get the safety to work as Mosin or Nagant intended for the safety to work. I have had this rifle for three years. The safety has always been inoperable. I never hunted with a round in the pipe when I used that rifle. I can now use the safety. On the can of spray on grease it says for heavy lubrication. The 91/30 safety is definitely heavy to turn.

I do not know if I am on to something but we shall see in the next six weeks. The 91/30 is shooting very good. I am ready to try the 91/30 on a mature 3 year old buck.

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Old 11-29-2014, 07:23 PM   #2
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I've managed to use the safety on my 91/30, but it isn't easy, especially with a little arthritis setting in. Mine is shooting high, about 6" at 56 paces, using a convenient tree trunk as a standing rest.

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I've managed to use the safety on my 91/30, but it isn't easy, especially with a little arthritis setting in. Mine is shooting high, about 6" at 56 paces, using a convenient tree trunk as a standing rest.


Aim 6 inches lower!!
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As far as I remember, the bolt safety has always been stiff on the Mosin rifles, because the soldier was not expected to use it often. The heavy trigger and operator's discipline were the practical safety. It is a Russian pattern and it reflects their doctrine. The AK safety is also awkward compared to the AR or the M14 or the G3. I can't remember hearing from anyone that they want to make the Mosin safety usable. I am sure it can be done.

P.S. Many if not most shoot high, it's normal w/o the bayonet. A simple sight job fixes it, PM if interested.

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Mosin safety ring.
A little brazing or welding and you have a big safety to grab.


http://tacticalvantage.com/fr/mosin-nagant-parts/948-mosin-nagant-cocking-knob-safety-pull-ring-black.html

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I've managed to use the safety on my 91/30, but it isn't easy, especially with a little arthritis setting in. Mine is shooting high, about 6" at 56 paces, using a convenient tree trunk as a standing rest.
If you want to drop that high flying group, Id suggest trying WOLF*Gold*205gr*SP loading.

Most surplus 7.62x54r ammo in 147gr fmj which has a tendency of flying high.
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The simplest way to drop the group is to use a heat shrink tube and a small piece of copper wire. The heat shrink is a temporary fix. But it will get the gun on target so you can see if you want to proceed with more work. 203 gr Brown or silver bear ammo is good for testing. Once you decide you want to proceed with the rifle take the heat shrink off the front sight and cut the rear sight ramp down. Use an air cut off wheel to take most of the metal off. Then use a belt sander to make the ramp nice and pretty and do any fine adjustments. There are lots of tips and tricks to making a Mosin Nagant more accurate. Controlling barrel harmonics is the first thing you need to do. You can shim the barrel with cork gasket material.

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Mosin Safeties are as useful as a politician. Just don't chamber a round until you are ready to shoot. If you change your mind after chambering, unload the round.

If you are insistent on using the safety, cock the bolt, use the first and middle fingers to retract the cocking piece and rotate the cocking piece with your left thumb. You are working against a strong spring, it requires strong fingers.... or you could just load when you are ready to shoot......

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Mosin Safeties are as useful as a politician. Just don't chamber a round until you are ready to shoot. If you change your mind after chambering, unload the round.

If you are insistent on using the safety, cock the bolt, use the first and middle fingers to retract the cocking piece and rotate the cocking piece with your left thumb. You are working against a strong spring, it requires strong fingers.... or you could just load when you are ready to shoot......
Now I have the safety working it gets easier to use each time I use it. Once I discovered use would loosen up the safety I brought the 91/30 in the house. I turned the safety while I was watching TV or killing time. I have the safety working well enough to disengage the safety when I see a deer. I killed a big doe Wednesday 11/27. I managed to disengage the safety with three deer watching me.

I also tried out PPU 150 gr soft point ammo today. At a little more than 100 yards I hit a one inch square 2 of 4 shots. All 4 shots were within 3 inches of the center of the one inch square. I am confident I can make a neck shot at 100 yard with PPU 150gr soft points. I am going to stick with the 180gr soft points. I will get a box or two of the 150gr ammo when I find a free shipping deal for hard times.

I have tried PPU ammo for both my 270 and 30/06. PPU shoots as well as Winchester Super X ammo.
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I usually never pay any attention to the safety, Im more interested wither there is a round in the chamber and not feeding any more from the magazine when clearing the chamber.
Any weapon that chambers a round, the safest way to carry a weapon is with no round in the chamber.
wither its a Italian Carcano, Chinese Sks, High Standard Citation, Mossberg 500, Marlin model 60, Mosin Nagant, Savage 110, Ruger Mini14 or a Remington 522.
Empty the chamber every time.
Allot of folks have made a fatal mistake assuming a safety works 100%, 100 percent of the time, same for having a round chambered and bumping the bolt (1903 Springfield) on somthing and discharging the rifle.

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