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Old 01-17-2014, 01:48 PM   #11
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I have 2. I was given about 300 rds of 7 X 57 ammo. I had nothing to shoot it out of. I found a 1916 in excellent condition, all matching #'s and a nice bright bore. $75 out the door! Used Lyman die set - $15. I started "collecting" brass and bullets. Ended up with 500 + rds of ammo. I NEEDED another rifle. Buddy who owned an LGS ordered me one. $125. Every bit as nice as the first. When it came in, he threw in a Toledo made bayonet for free.

I love these little carbines. Light, handy, powerful, accurate, inexpensive.

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To all who have one in ".308". They are not .308s they are 7.62 X 51 mm, and yes there is a difference. .308 is loaded to a higher pressure than 7.62 x 51. They are not the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9751mm_NATO

Just trying to keep us all safe. The page does say that it is not considered unsafe, but you never know. For those of us who handload, load them a little light.

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To all who have one in ".308". They are not .308s they are 7.62 X 51 mm, and yes there is a difference. .308 is loaded to a higher pressure than 7.62 x 51. They are not the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9751mm_NATO

Just trying to keep us all safe. The page does say that it is not considered unsafe, but you never know. For those of us who handload, load them a little light.
+1 on this controversial topic. Most of the converted rifles were 7 X 57. The Guardia Civil rifles were small ring Mauser actions rebarreled to 7.62 X 51.

The small ring Mauser is a good strong action, just not AS strong as the large ring action. All of the small ring actions predate WWII, some from 1893. Most of the Guardia Civil rifles started life (I believe) as 1916 short rifles so they are a "little" newer.

WTS, these are almost 100 years old and are being asked to do something they were never designed to do (shoot .308 ammo).

Will they blow up in your face the first time you shoot full power .308 through them? Almost assuredly not. You WILL put more stress on it and EVENTUALLY you will have an issue. Unfortunately, the first issue you may notice is when the bolt pierces your brain through your dominant eye socket.
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And we all lived happily ever after...

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I picked up a Spanish Mauser about 30 years ago for $20. It spent the next 20 years as a closet queen. Someone cut the stock down and bent the bolt handle. I took it to the range and test fired it just to see if was safe to shoot then put it back in the closet. About 5 years ago I found 3 boxes of Remington ammo at a yard sale @ $25 for all three. I then took it to the range to test it for accuracy. I ran 5 shots through it at 100 yds. I had no scope to see where it was hitting and couldn't see one hole in the target. When I went to retrieve the target, there were 5 holes in the 2 inch Bull. Surprised not only by its accuracy but also that it shoots better than I do. I found a cheap plastic stock and shot it again but it was all over the target. I put the Bubba stock back on it and regained the accuracy. I'm gonna accept the Bubba look and keep it for a loaner or a beater.

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The 1916 had a bent bolt handle already.

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I have 2. I was given about 300 rds of 7 X 57 ammo. I had nothing to shoot it out of. I found a 1916 in excellent condition, all matching #'s and a nice bright bore. $75 out the door! Used Lyman die set - $15. I started "collecting" brass and bullets. Ended up with 500 + rds of ammo. I NEEDED another rifle. Buddy who owned an LGS ordered me one. $125. Every bit as nice as the first. When it came in, he threw in a Toledo made bayonet for free.

I love these little carbines. Light, handy, powerful, accurate, inexpensive.
How long ago was this? I've been wanting one, but the only one I found for $125 (plus $40 for shipping and FFL fee) was an old beaten up sporterized one. I don't feel like paying that much for a sporterized one. I'd prefer one that was still in military dress.
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Oh jeez. 20+ years ago.

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Oh jeez. 20+ years ago.
Maybe that's why I can't find them for that price.
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Mine was $100 flat. Needed $30 worth of parts and a little bit of time. Not a great collectible but a fine example.


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