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Jake15 04-19-2011 09:01 PM

1880 Italian bolt action rifle
 
can anybody tell me what this is, ive done some research and all i can figure out is that its an Italian Vetterli rifle that started out as a singleshot then was converted to magazine fed. the markings on it say "1880" and "Brescia" which i think is a town in Italy, what i really want to know is what caliber it is and what cartridge it shoots

c3shooter 04-19-2011 10:01 PM

Can't say for sure without PICTURES!

Got a trigger guard with a snazzy firnger rest? Back about 1887, the 1880 was modified by adding a 4 shot Vitali mag, and became known as the 1870/87, in caliber 10.35 x 47mm. In 1916, modified AGAIN by adding a liner to the bore to get it down to 6.5 mm, and became the 1870/87/15. And yes, Brescia was heart of gunmaking in Italy.

Jake15 04-19-2011 10:14 PM

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Sorry about the pictures, I thought they uploaded the first time and there not all that good cause I took them on my phone. Yes it does have a snazzy finger rest on the trigger guard and the calipers say its still 10.35mm, and some retard who had it before me cut the stock down. any idea on value, a friend got it at a flea market for $60 bucks then gave it to me for free. thanks for the info.

jpattersonnh 04-19-2011 10:44 PM

Is that a hole drilled into the side of the receiver??

Jake15 04-20-2011 12:36 AM

Yes it is a hole drilled in the receiver, but I did a little more research with the info that c3shooter gave me I found out that its a gas port incase you have a ruptured case, my other bolt guns have one there as well

c3shooter 04-20-2011 01:54 AM

Value of ANY gun is based on it's condition (exception is for historically important guns- George Patton's pistols are his pistols, regardless of condition) Yours is in fairly rough shape. What is it worth? Well, we know at least $70- your friend paid that much! Look around and find ones that have been for sale (google is your friend) and adjust for condition. PS- those were pretty much black powder guns. I would not try firing that with ANY cartridge.

In the meantime, neat bit of historyn you have there- spend some time researching the progression of the design (hint- these did not START in Italy,) and research Brescia, and the Italian firearms business. Did you know Beraetta is the oldest operating gun maker today? Italy, 1500s.

Jake15 04-20-2011 02:58 AM

Thanks for the info, I did know about Beretta being the oldest gun manufacturer but only because on every Beretta advertisement it says "500 years, one passion", and the friend that picked it up isn't really into guns too much he just thought it was a good price and that I would like it, and I will do some more research on it, and NOT try to shoot it, thanks again.

wmille01 04-20-2011 03:19 AM

all I can say is that gun looks like it's been through hell.

CA357 04-20-2011 03:51 AM

This may help as well: Italian


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