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Old 03-30-2011, 11:44 AM   #51
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Kind of a funny side story, but twenty-some years ago I worked in the racing industry (as a mechanic) and one of the guys from the Penske (Roger Penske owns Pennzoil) team told me that they got empty Pennzoil containers and filled them with Redline oil to use in the race cars so that nobody could get a picture of a Penske car being filled with anything but Pennzoil.
That kind of stuff happens ALL the time.
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This data is on their site:

Fluid Film® | Corrosion Preventative, Lubricant and Rust Inhibitor

"Repaintability: Contain no silicones. It is recommended that surfaces treated with FLUID FILM® AS or NAS be hot water or steam detergent washed (120°F), whichever is most effective." That is, before repainting surfaces, maybe not naked metal.

Another note: I am wondering what the chemical composition of Fluid Film would be. The company, Eureka Chemical Company, would regard it as a trade secret of course, so they will not reveal it.
The main penetration/protective property in it is derived from sheep (lanolin).

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I am assuming Fluid Film be used only in specific cases, like coating the OUTSIDE of metal objects meant for LONG TERM storage.

I am assuming it should not be used for internal barrel cleaning or any metal cleaning in general. It should probably not be put inside the barrel or clips/magazines
You sure do a lot of assuming, and you know what they say about that.

A light coating to Clip/magazine springs, no problem.

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Does it use lanolin or neatsfoot oil? I have no idea one or the other.

If you are storing something for a long period of time I would soak it down with whatever protectant you choose according to their directions and when you pull it out of storage you clean it thoroughly also as according to the directions. I think hot water and detergent is almost always on the menu. You might laugh but if you can get away with it the dishwasher works like a charm for cleaning gun parts. You just have to dry them thoroughly and oil them while they are still hot out of the dishwasher. (Note: Don't let the wife find your gun parts in her dishwasher.)

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So we have officially gone past the 90 day mark. Here are the results as I opened the buckets and took the knives out for the last time. The results were as expected based on evidence to date.

The Control knife is pretty much destroyed. It's black and the crust is strong enough to withstand a fingernail attempt to scratch it.

Here's the star of the show, Fluid Film. Still looking very good. The only part that shows any rust is along the spine and it was surface rust that was easily scratched away with a finger nail.

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And here we have XF-7, a product that bills itself as a water and rust protectant that is more of a gel based than a spray. This is officially getting removed from my toolbox. I just can't see spending the money for a product that performs this poorly. Notice the first picture is of the control and then look at the results on the XF-7.

WD-40 not looking any better. This one was facing an uphill battle from the start and nothing has changed.

The final shot is a close up with a brand new knife that had no salt water exposure versus the control.

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Here is Fluid Film versus the brand new knife. Looking like the King of the Ball.

Then we have XF-7 close up with the brand new, followed by WD-40.

Here we are all lined up, which product would you choose to treat your high carbon metal against salt water and rust??

L to R we have the Brand New, The Control, Fluid Film, XF-7 and finally WD-40.

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Amazing! JD you are the man. This test shows without a doubt that fluid film is the go to for protection of High Carbon metal.

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Nicely done, JD. I appreciate your efforts......

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