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Commocarl 08-18-2012 01:27 AM

Ebony Stain
Hey Guys
I am having a heck of a time and need some sage advice.

I have an old Savage .22 rifle I have been playing around with now for months. It was a beater that I purchased cheap and wanted to refurbish myself.

The stock is beat to hell; scratches, gouges, dings and dents galore. I have been trying to figure out how to stain it ebony to hide most of the problems.

I have used a furniture ebony stain, it went on like paint, not showing the grain, and mostly came off with sanding. I tried leather dye, almost the same result. I diluted the dye in alcohol and tried again. it was a little better but not very dark at all. So now I have a stock showing every ding, dent and scratch.

As this is a rough project rifle, I am not opposed to painting it if all else fails. I really would like to have a black stock that shows the grain. My last ditch try at this will be with a black marker. Before I resort to that I wanted to ask your advice.

BillDeShivs 08-18-2012 04:08 AM

Coloring the stock will do little to mask imperfections. Most gouges and dents can be steamed out by using a damp wash cloth and an iron. Place a corner of the damp cloth over the area, and press the hot iron against it. Steam will enter the pores of the wood and raise the dent. It can then be sanded flush. Sand the lighter scratches out and refinish the stock.

Rick1967 08-18-2012 04:31 AM

I agree the iron can work wonders. As far as the ebony stain a little at a time. Put a coat on. Let is soak in for a couple minutes. Wipe it off. Repeat. You will do better with a bunch of thin coats than one or two heavy ones. Dont get in a hury.

Intheshop 08-18-2012 09:45 AM

No association,Heck...I don't even build guitars.But am on these folks E-mailing list and do enjoy reading their stuff?They seem to carry a little higher quality line of woodworking items than typical woodpecker joints.

Did you check Brownells?,_tints,_and_stains/Black_Fingerboard_Stain.html

willshoum 08-18-2012 10:32 AM

You might try a small propane torch, I find it works wonders to bring out the grain and add dark coloring with out the use of stains. try this on a piece of simialar wood, then have at it. Then you can use a mixture of wood oils to bring out the beauty.......:)

Commocarl 08-19-2012 04:12 PM

Thanks everyone.

I have ironed the stock, but as I have said, it is in pretty rough shape.
Thanks for all the ideas.

Datalore 08-27-2012 03:47 PM

Remove the entire stock and sand it to bare wood. Then apply the stain you would like. Then apply coats of clear until it gets the shine that you are looking for. I have refinished several stocks that many thought were beyond repair. Saw a great tip on an earlier post. Always go with several thin coats of stain or clear and the end product will be much nicer.

willshoum 08-27-2012 06:07 PM

Just me......
I'm not into a stock and fore end that glints in the sun light. it should melt into the terrain.......What do i know.....:confused:

drtybrd97 08-27-2012 06:55 PM

Do you know what is the species of the wood? If it is a harder wood (hard maple, hickory, white oak) they are not as porous so it may be more difficult to get it to accept the stain.
1) Sand the stock with 120 grit. Then try staining a small section at a time. If you sand with a higher grit it will almost polish the wood and the stain will not be able to dive into the pores.
2) If you can find someone that sells a low solvent stain base that would work best. The ls base had to be stirred a lot though.
3) You could also try"conditioning" the wood before you apply the stain. Just apply clear stain base and wipe off before apply the ebony.

One of those should help I hope.

drtybrd97 08-27-2012 08:49 PM

Make sure your have sanded back to bare wood before you try anything

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